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Old 03-16-2010, 08:07 PM   #136
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Don't the 'bedrooms' slide out ? If they do, then you would need to slide both out I would think to use the camper
I think they "fold" out, but I'm not exactly sure how the set up works. Sorry.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:14 PM   #137
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I think they "fold" out, but I'm not exactly sure how the set up works. Sorry.
No worries. On my pop-up they slide out so you have to slide both out before you can get inside.
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Old 03-16-2010, 08:57 PM   #138
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No worries. On my pop-up they slide out so you have to slide both out before you can get inside.
May be the same way with this one. I've never set up a pop-up so I'm ignernt.
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:37 AM   #139
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Used a pop up for a family of 3 for many years. Since it was me and two "girls" we rarely "camped" at primitive sites so lack of a "real" bathroom wasn't a problem. Lots of room and the ex and I could have it set up, awning out, and pot of coffee on in 15 minutes. The room was especially nice. I like the eggs but their prices were out of the question and the room available was inadequate for 3 people and two dogs . The half ton pick up didnt know it was back there.

One quick warning for vehicle tow ratings . . . experience has shown me that while a truck may be "rated" for 5000 pounds, it ain't gonna be happy with that weight. In pulling boats and other trailers, I've learned that only going to about 2/3-3/4 of rated weight makes for a less stressful experience.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:25 AM   #140
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I think they "fold" out, but I'm not exactly sure how the set up works. Sorry.
Every soft side pop-up that I'm familiar with (which isn't many ) have the bed floors slide out with the tent material being folded out after cranking up the roof. Not usable inside without both beds out. I do recall in the deep past seeing a few pop ups with only one bed-slide out. Now, one of those would make a lot of sense with a ATV/Motorbike/Bicycle... storage floor.

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Old 03-17-2010, 11:27 AM   #141
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Here's a couple more comments:

Front load deck trailers could quickly reach excessive weights on the coupler/rear tow vehicle tires. These trailers also-- as well as interior load trailers, aka toy haulers-- are going to vary drastically on hitch weight depending on what the weight of the additional load is and where it is placed in relation to the axle(s). Hitch weight should be, rule of thumb, about 10% of total weight. A wight distributing hitch would help, but different loads are still going to cause some issues.

Hybrid trailers are nice and I was real interested in them until I was inside some near a highway and it sounded like the cars were all but driving right through the thing. You lose one of the key advantages of trailers over tents, getting a good night's sleep in a quiet room.

Another key advantage to campers is the bathroom; you don't have to trundle off to the bathroom and stand in line to piss in the morning. I recommend you get one with a functional bathroom.

Ownership as opposed to renting, as another pointed out, is better because it makes taking a trip easier once you go out that first time in the spring; your stuff is already inside. You have the brand ketchup you happen to prefer, something moteling does not offer.

Pop ups don't do much for me because you can't get at the refrig or the bathroom when traveling. With access to your fridge, you can have just a snack instead of buying a full meal every few hours. And, again there's the noise at night issue.

Toy haulers appeal to me, but my passenger does not like them because the interiors tend to be spartan/industrial looking. Plus, spilled fuel smell does NOT quickly dissipate as one person claimed-- at least according to my nose.

In the end, I'm going to keep my 30 foot travel trailer and put my motorcycle in the bed of the truck. This solution isn't perfect, but it is still the best trade off for me. The only other thing I would choose instead is a very small trailer like the OP is looking for-- which is why I read all the way through this thread and explored the great links provided.

Lastly, there are two things that just about every RV floor plan lacks. First, if you buy one and intend to have a tv, be sure you have a place to sit to watch the tv that is straight in front of you. Nothing worse than watching tv with your head turned to one side. That gets very tiring quickly.

The second thing to consider is storage space, especially closet space. You need a closet that will fit all your riding gear when you return to your campsite. Few trailers have closets that are big enough for this, even toy haulers, and you'd think those would have them.

Be careful what you buy, as it's much like everything else; it's easier to buy one than to resell it once you discover its shortcomings.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:06 PM   #142
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Here's a couple more comments:

Front load deck trailers could quickly reach excessive weights on the coupler/rear tow vehicle tires. These trailers also-- as well as interior load trailers, aka toy haulers-- are going to vary drastically on hitch weight depending on what the weight of the additional load is and where it is placed in relation to the axle(s). Hitch weight should be, rule of thumb, about 10% of total weight. A wight distributing hitch would help, but different loads are still going to cause some issues.

Hybrid trailers are nice and I was real interested in them until I was inside some near a highway and it sounded like the cars were all but driving right through the thing. You lose one of the key advantages of trailers over tents, getting a good night's sleep in a quiet room.

Another key advantage to campers is the bathroom; you don't have to trundle off to the bathroom and stand in line to piss in the morning. I recommend you get one with a functional bathroom.

Ownership as opposed to renting, as another pointed out, is better because it makes taking a trip easier once you go out that first time in the spring; your stuff is already inside. You have the brand ketchup you happen to prefer, something moteling does not offer.

Pop ups don't do much for me because you can't get at the refrig or the bathroom when traveling. With access to your fridge, you can have just a snack instead of buying a full meal every few hours. And, again there's the noise at night issue.

Toy haulers appeal to me, but my passenger does not like them because the interiors tend to be spartan/industrial looking. Plus, spilled fuel smell does NOT quickly dissipate as one person claimed-- at least according to my nose.

In the end, I'm going to keep my 30 foot travel trailer and put my motorcycle in the bed of the truck. This solution isn't perfect, but it is still the best trade off for me. The only other thing I would choose instead is a very small trailer like the OP is looking for-- which is why I read all the way through this thread and explored the great links provided.

Lastly, there are two things that just about every RV floor plan lacks. First, if you buy one and intend to have a tv, be sure you have a place to sit to watch the tv that is straight in front of you. Nothing worse than watching tv with your head turned to one side. That gets very tiring quickly.

The second thing to consider is storage space, especially closet space. You need a closet that will fit all your riding gear when you return to your campsite. Few trailers have closets that are big enough for this, even toy haulers, and you'd think those would have them.

Be careful what you buy, as it's much like everything else; it's easier to buy one than to resell it once you discover its shortcomings.
Great comments.

Thanks Snowbird.

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Old 03-17-2010, 12:41 PM   #143
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Excellent coments, and completely sums up my frustration over the years of what to get. So much of it really depends on the type of camping you are going to do and how much travelling is involved. If you are on a cross country trip stopping in a lot of places then a camper you can walk into have lunch, and get on the road and at the end of the day have little or no setup becomes very important. If you are basecamping then setup is not as much an issue.
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Old 03-17-2010, 12:50 PM   #144
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Every soft side pop-up that I'm familiar with (which isn't many ) have the bed floors slide out with the tent material being folded out after cranking up the roof. Not usable inside without both beds out. I do recall in the deep past seeing a few pop ups with only one bed-slide out. Now, one of those would make a lot of sense with a ATV/Motorbike/Bicycle... storage floor.

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Old 03-17-2010, 01:06 PM   #145
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So I've got a small trailer frame for cheap and intend to build something to haul two DR350's and (hopefully) have a box large enough for two adults to sleep inside.

My concerns are with having a configuration that has decent weight-distribution with or without motorcycles loaded.

I've seen the teardrops and such that have a platform for toys either fore or aft, but would assume that those have load-balance issues if the toys aren't present.

I'm kind of thinking that maybe a box in the middle (over the wheels, bed over a storage area in the floor, sleeping crossways), with a bike in front and one in back may be the answer, but am interested to hear the thoughts of the collective...

It's not very big. Not including the bumper on the rear or the tongue, it measures:

6' 8-1/2" x 8' 8-1/2"



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Old 03-17-2010, 01:32 PM   #146
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John...before you go thru the trouble/hassle/frustration of building something on that (unless your really, really like that kind of stuff), I would suggest just looking for a good used enclosed trailer.

That way you can carry the bikes/gear out of the weather, and then just sleep in the trailer when you get to your destination.

That is what 'da wife and I did at last years Central rally. A folding table, a couple of cots or air mattress, and you are all set!

My trailer has a side entry door, and front/rear ramps. I build a small screen frame that fits in the front opening, so we get lots of ventilation.
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Old 03-18-2010, 04:25 AM   #147
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One quick warning for vehicle tow ratings . . . experience has shown me that while a truck may be "rated" for 5000 pounds, it ain't gonna be happy with that weight. In pulling boats and other trailers, I've learned that only going to about 2/3-3/4 of rated weight makes for a less stressful experience.
I'm always amazed when I see 3/4 ton SRW trucks pulling huge fifth wheels down the highway. You can't have too much truck, but you can damn sure have too little.
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:50 AM   #148
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I'm always amazed when I see 3/4 ton SRW trucks pulling huge fifth wheels down the highway. You can't have too much truck, but you can damn sure have too little.
Many, many rigs you see on the road are way overloaded for the truck's rating.

scarysharkface, I love the sticker in the rear window of your Jeep.
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:51 AM   #149
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Built my own a few years back. I sold it this past fall and will be looking to built something else soon. Problly will go the enclosed trailer route so I have some place to go in the crappy weather.







This picture was in Sturgis before it was painted yellow to match the Blazer!



Half the fun was building it...if I do build another teardrop camper it will probally look some what like this one.

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Half the fun was building it...if I do build another teardrop camper it will probally look some what like this one.

Oh, I do like that!

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