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Old 10-31-2013, 10:12 PM   #1981
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High Tech, ugly and without any useful furnishings but a bed? No kitchen, no storage, nothing but a roof rack?

My Camp-Inn puts that thing to shame.

And those stilt legs? Damn thing will vibrate all night long every time there's a breeze or you roll over.

Seriously, that looks practical in orbit but terrestrial? engineering massive overkill with a rather minimal finish, IMHO.
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:54 AM   #1982
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And how many people are towing with a Subaru? That is the limiting factor, not the design of that trailer.

If you want to tow, you get a truck or SUV that can handle it. I'll throw some cars in the mix because most German cars can actually tow, and most Germans use their wagon to haul a light trailer. Subaru's just aren't made to do it.

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And here I thought the whole purpose of this thread was about trailers and stuff that didn't require a full sized tow rig.
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Old 11-01-2013, 06:21 AM   #1983
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And here I thought the whole purpose of this thread was about trailers and stuff that didn't require a full sized tow rig.
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Old 11-01-2013, 07:52 AM   #1984
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Pretty neat stuff for a minimalist pick-up camper. I love The Cricket camper he builds too.
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:41 AM   #1985
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High Tech, ugly and without any useful furnishings but a bed? No kitchen, no storage, nothing but a roof rack?

My Camp-Inn puts that thing to shame.

And those stilt legs? Damn thing will vibrate all night long every time there's a breeze or you roll over.

Seriously, that looks practical in orbit but terrestrial? engineering massive overkill with a rather minimal finish, IMHO.
Consider it a hardwall tent. Your Camp-inn is still a trailer option, not a slide-in, so obviously youre working with a different set of parameters--more width, more length, larger payload allowance etc. This is intend for those who want their camp arrangement to take no more room than a regular truck, haul off trail, and park in a normal parking spot. Just a regular slide-in.

While those stilts might seem rickety to you, to me they seem a far cry more stable than the support arrangements I see in most slide-ins. Over-engineered? Nah, I wish more RVs were *actually* engineered. Most are garbage. And this one, imo is less "engineered," and and moreso just "designed," with a utilitarian design aesthetic. Just looking at it, imo it is not built for long term weather, in mind, so imo...*under-engineered.* It is neat in its own rite. A bit too sparse for me, too. I've seen some absolutely blow-your-socks-off slide-ins lately. Most require something along the lines of a Ford F-450 to haul. This appears to aim for a regular half-ton truck.

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Old 11-01-2013, 09:22 AM   #1986
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And how many people are towing with a Subaru? That is the limiting factor, not the design of that trailer.
Pulled our camp in more than 20,000 miles with a 4 cylinder Subaru with a 5 speed. Slow on the hills but still got almost 20 mpg fully, and I mean motherfarking FULLY loaded with alaska gear, two spares, firewood, fuel, easy-up, clothing and such.





Yea, it was marginal, yea we burned a set of tires on the subi.

Yea, it was fun, and yea, I still have both of them, though we use a slightly bigger tow vehicle now that we upgraded to a better car for the wife.

Edited to add: Damn, that's a fat fuck in that pic. I've lost more than 100 lbs and look a lot better today...fortunately.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:47 AM   #1987
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:56 AM   #1988
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I think you guys missed the point of that comment. The guy I was responding to was trashing a very functionally designed toy hauler because his Subaru couldn't handle the tongue weight.

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Old 11-01-2013, 10:13 AM   #1989
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I think you guys missed the point of that comment. The guy I was responding to was trashing a very functionally designed toy hauler because his Subaru couldn't handle the tongue weight.

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Design on that trailer was perfunctory, not functional. It was mainly "designed" that way so that they wouldn't have to *redesign* the body panels from their original teardrop. The only thing you could argue was "designed" about that particular trailer was the fact that it was built for cost savings, by re-use. If it were actually *functionally* designed, it wouldn't have such an extreme bias towards tongue weight, since it obviously limits which tow vehicles you can use. it with...as the original poster pointed out. It does not surprise me that someone followed up with a post saying "tows great, but he modified his so the axle can be moved forward on the fly .", and then Sumo comes around with his, which is basically the same thing, although, again, *actually* designed with weight distribution thought out instead of an afterthought. Net net: Useful front deck feature. Half-assed design.

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Old 11-01-2013, 04:32 PM   #1991
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I think you guys missed the point of that comment. The guy I was responding to was trashing a very functionally designed toy hauler because his Subaru couldn't handle the tongue weight.

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I guess if I'm going to a full size pickup (read 1/2 ton) I'm going to a more practical toy hauler design. The hybrid tear drop with a platform seems to miss the point of tear drops. Once to a 1/2 ton I'd rather have a small walk in.

Manuel Garcia Kelley's very nice tear drop is as large as they should be.

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Old 11-01-2013, 05:41 PM   #1992
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It takes a former NASA's senior architect to design this?!


Yeah in the sixties NASA spent like three million$$$$$ to design the space pen (now sold by Rite in the Rain)that would write in zero gravity.

The inferior Russian space effort used ....... A PENCIL!

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Yeah in the sixties NASA spent like three million$$$$$ to design the space pen (now sold by Rite in the Rain)that would write in zero gravity.

The inferior Russian space effort used ....... A PENCIL!

Ummm - no.

NASA spent $2.95 for the pens.

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-got a peer-reviewed citation on that?

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