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Old 01-31-2011, 02:26 PM   #316
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Toy haulers appeal to me, but my passenger does not like them because the interiors tend to be spartan/industrial looking. Plus, spilled fuel smell does NOT quickly dissipate as one person claimed-- at least according to my nose.
I know this is an old post, but I just had to comment.

This is certainly true - the smell of gas (or worse diesel) hangs around forever. I am sitting here with my dirt bike in the living room. I had to remove the gas tanks because the vents and the out-gassing of the permeable tanks were just too much to live with. If I had a 'toy-hauler' I would definitely want a separate compartment for the bikes/toys as you could not live with the smell for long. You don't notice it in a large room like a large garage, but in a small compartment, especially one that is warm, you do notice it.

In some of these mini-sized toy-haulers you could not keep the bikes inside for long if the hauler was closed up (like in the winter when it is cold out). For me that is an issue as I mostly want a warm compartment for camping when I am riding somewhere in the winter.
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:17 PM   #317
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I don't know if anybody has posted one of these, but this is what I will be using in the spring...
54"x84" deck on the front, 2 bikes or one atv. having heat, hot water, heated mattress, bathroom, ect, trumps a cot in a cargo trailer


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Old 01-31-2011, 04:21 PM   #318
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This is a unique little camper. Seems like there's way too much that could go wrong, and the cost for the hi-tech aspect would make it too expensive . . . . but still, it's kinda neat.

One of the nice things about this is that it wouldn't be too hard to make it pretty hard (or at least very undesirable) to steal by leaving it in the down position and not having any way to raise it without a key or code or something.

The fact that it lays on the ground would be very nice from a number of points of view; if the ground was level and flat, then no leveling of the the trailer. Also you it is easier to load and get in and out of.

The problem would be (maybe - IMO) if the ground wasn't flat and level.
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Old 01-31-2011, 04:53 PM   #319
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I don't know if anybody has posted one of these, but this is what I will be using in the spring...
54"x84" deck on the front, 2 bikes or one atv. having heat, hot water, heated mattress, bathroom, ect, trumps a cot in a cargo trailer
Those are definately a cool idea. Lot's of choices for lots of different reasons.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:40 PM   #320
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For the same price wouldn't you rather have one with a bathroom, kitchen, two beds, trailer brakes, Heat & A/C?
http://www.dunesport.com/index.php

http://www.dunesport.com/view_toy_ha...orderid=245983


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That might have been a rather expensive post for me.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:07 AM   #321
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That might have been a rather expensive post for me.
I'm hoping that once I start making money again (I hope, I hope, I hope) we'll be able to buy one. It addresses all of my minimum requirements without going overboard. And for $12,000 why wouldn't you?
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:03 AM   #322
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Question for all you guys that have cargo trailers, do you notice a difference in towing wind resistance between a flat,v-nose or the bubble front ends?
I was concerned with this as well when buying my trailer because I'm towing with a 4cyl Tacoma. I found the general concensus was that bubble or V-nose are both better than a flat nose.

I'm looking at Airtab "Vortex Generators" for my trailer to help a bit more. As someone mentioned in the following discussion "Remember in aerodynamics it's not the hole you punch in the air but how you close it back up when it comes to drag."

http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/for...63/scope/posts
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Old 02-01-2011, 11:08 AM   #323
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yep closing the suction up behind you makes more of noticeable increase.
but a nose cone or v nose will pull better to. along with a round top a nothing mounted to the roof(a/c units).. think clean.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:16 PM   #324
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Thanks guys, interesting information on the vortex generators.
Gives me something to think about as I look for my trailer.
I suppose a v-nose has a little more room too.
One of the guys here built a, removeable, plywood "v-nose" for his flat fronted enclosed utility trailer. He uses it for a shower. Says it made a noticable difference in towing.
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Old 02-01-2011, 12:47 PM   #325
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Question for all you guys that have cargo trailers, do you notice a difference in towing wind resistance between a flat,v-nose or the bubble front ends?
Dont forget, since you already pushed a truck through the airspace and its being followed by the trailer, the front of the trailer dont make a huge difference. What matters more is something you dont think of, thats the ride height of the trailer.... the underside or bottom of it. If you are pulling with a tall 4x4 but your trailer is low, dont get a drop ball hitch, raise the heigth of the trailer to match the tow vehicle. Same with if you are towing with a low car or minivan, dont have a high trailer. The wind resistance of the trailer "plowing" the air that comes straight back from under the truck is substaintal and it has nowhere to go. Its a heck of a drag. It has more of an effect since the air gets mushed between the trailer and the road. Sure, you raise the trailer up and that hits air too but that air can much easier go up and over rather than mangle, punch and tumble under the trailer untill ist behind the trailer.

Getting your trailer matched to your tow vehicle will do more for you than getting the smoothest round front since only the top little bit and edges do anything for you anyway. Thats where most of the air hits on a trailer.
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Old 02-01-2011, 04:00 PM   #326
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And for $12,000 why wouldn't you?
Stop it already!

Seriously, I almost pulled the trigger last night but I figured I should wait a spell.

That 16' Typhoon would be perfect for my needs.
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Old 02-01-2011, 05:16 PM   #327
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That's why the teardrop trailers work so well.

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"Remember in aerodynamics it's not the hole you punch in the air but how you close it back up when it comes to drag."

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Old 02-01-2011, 08:44 PM   #328
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That 16' Typhoon would be perfect for my needs.
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Old 02-02-2011, 01:28 PM   #329
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That's why the teardrop trailers work so well.

i'm gonna be in that pine box a long time. no need of rushing things
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Old 02-02-2011, 06:17 PM   #330
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My criteria:

Toy hauler Candi and I can live in for up to a week (this means heat, a/c, fridge, shower/toilet, kitchen, etc) with two little dogs, capable of hauling one full size motorcycle or two dirt bikes. Obviously the motorcycle(s) would live outside once we reach our destination. Canvas anything is out due to the dogs. I'd have a portable generator in addition to an onboard battery for power requirements.

Here's the catch - I own a rubicon. One third of the towing capacity of a V-8 truck, with all of the gas mileage penalties

Anyway, averaging 17 mpg towing nothing I'm worried about seeing 10 mpg towing a small toy hauler. The actual towing capacity of the two door rubicon is 2000 lbs, but the 4 door version with the exact same powertrain can pull 3500 lbs. So obviously the reduction in tow capacity is due to the shorter wheelbase of my two door Rubicon. There are ways to deal with that, so I figure I can safely pull a 2000 lbs unit + payload - maybe 2700 - 3000 lbs loaded.

So far this is the only one I've found that fits the bill:

http://www.kz-rv.com/sportsmen_classic/index.html

They make a 14' version that is a toy hauler:

http://www.postrv.com/2011-k-z-sport...ler-OH-i199467

Any comments? Anything else comparable out there? Will the towing mileage suck as bad as I think it will?

My plan is to go ahead and rent one this spring and see what happens.
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