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Old 04-08-2013, 08:46 PM   #1
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Security - Securing your ride in the garage/away from home.

Hi I was wondering what you guys are using for bike security?

I just bought an anchor point for mine.

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Old 04-08-2013, 08:55 PM   #2
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Hi I was wondering what you guys are using for bike security?

I just bought an anchor point for mine.
Got a jack in the garage? Always good to have the tool to rip those out of the floor handy for the thief.

I've got enough tools in my shop to cut or break anything I could rig. Besides, the tools will get stolen first.

I've got a piece of paper in the window of the door. Keeps people from looking in and the concentric circles printed on the paper, not to mention the cluster of .40 cal. holes in the middle kinda makes a point.

The neighbor has lights up (as do I) and a security camera in a tree, it's a trail camera that takes a pic of anything moving in range.

Knowing your neighbors and discussing security can go a long way.


Consider a Lojack for the bike.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:17 PM   #3
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lol no I don't, tho I'm sure someone around here does have one they can borrow, this is for mounting it outside, I have to mount it outside inside of a gate/fence because of where I live.

Unfortunatley I cannot secure the fence with barbed wire, however I am considering one of these to secure the gate, so it would be considerably difficult for them to get the bike out of the yard, having to lift it up over the fence, etc. : http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/D-D-Gate-...item3a7b930cee

How would you get the jack in underneath the anchor point anyway? Its only maybe an inch from the cement ground to the lip of the anchor point. I'm thinking maybe a crowbar to lever it up to a height where the crowbar could sit on the jack and jam in underneath the anchor point, right?

I'm considering also buying one of these:
http://www.almax-security-chains.co....t=More+Details

And using this to secure the chain with: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111040950...orig_cvip=true
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If you are that worried about the bike, buy the best insurance you can get.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:47 PM   #5
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Yeah, That is going to take effect too.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:01 PM   #6
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lol no I don't, tho I'm sure someone around here does have one they can borrow, this is for mounting it outside, I have to mount it outside inside of a gate/fence because of where I live.

Unfortunatley I cannot secure the fence with barbed wire, however I am considering one of these to secure the gate, so it would be considerably difficult for them to get the bike out of the yard, having to lift it up over the fence, etc. : http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/D-D-Gate-...item3a7b930cee

How would you get the jack in underneath the anchor point anyway? Its only maybe an inch from the cement ground to the lip of the anchor point. I'm thinking maybe a crowbar to lever it up to a height where the crowbar could sit on the jack and jam in underneath the anchor point, right?

I'm considering also buying one of these:
http://www.almax-security-chains.co....t=More+Details

And using this to secure the chain with: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/111040950...orig_cvip=true
Loop of chain under it. I just ripped up my front concrete path with a jack and chain. You only need to lift the concrete a haklf inch, then a sledgehammer blow shatter it. last ime I needed to get a 20' sea kayack through a 10' barbed wire topped and well locked chain link gate, I just took it off the hinges. Took 5 minutes. I could have opened it with the towstrap and the truck too but it was a city gate with a whole lot of witnesses right there wondering WTF I was doing as it was.

You want to slow them down and get past the grab and run idiots. Someone serious will scope it out, lay their plans and steal it.


That lock is too expensive for what it is. (IMNSHO) Look into Cobra Links. Costs the same but you get both the lock and the chain and that chain is very expensive. Can be very hard to find anymore. A good hardened square link chain is 100USD.

Then add an alarm...and insurance.

You could also wire a coil to some copper foil under the front of the seat with a hidden cutout switch, then leave the keys in it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:12 AM   #7
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There is one thing going for me, I will most likely hear it if someone serious tries to nab it, and there is CCTV cameras everywhere hidden out of sight.

What if I put a cheaper anchor point on a vertical cement/brick wall? Its a pretty sturdy wall, and then put the current anchor point that I've got on the ground. then loop the chain through both points on the ground and the wall, through the bike frame.

That should then make the bike frame the weakest point.

Already got plans to add an alarm and a GPS system.

Also considering an alarmed motion detection system both on the bike and in the yard where the bike is, remote controlled and hardened inside of a steel case, battery backup and mains fed to it.

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Old 04-09-2013, 12:56 AM   #8
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Knowing your neighbors and discussing security can go a long way.
Oh, I know my neighbours alright - that's my biggest worry...the whole damn town. Being discreet - the bikes are never in sight, the door seldom open, bikes only start up then leave. I have an Oxford as in the first post, also an Abus - chains, alarms and insurance. I'm sure someone will say the big dog thing - the people who steal bikes are into big nasty dogs too, they pose no problem. Small yappy dogs are better security - they just never stop barking and the usual big dog tactics don't work.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:59 AM   #9
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Yeah I'm with you on this one regards to dogs, I'd much rather trust a hardened/sealed motion detection alarm than a dog, there is no guarantee that they won't automatically start wagging their tail at a stranger too lol

I also too fear my neighbours, knowing them and how they are just makes things worse for security.

Living in a decent area is no guarantee of better security either, I know at least a couple of 2-stroke heroes who do far too many drugs to consider trustworthy in the slightest.

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There is one thing going for me, I will most likely hear it if someone serious tries to nab it, and there is CCTV cameras everywhere hidden out of sight.

What if I put a cheaper anchor point on a vertical cement/brick wall? Its a pretty sturdy wall, and then put the current anchor point that I've got on the ground. then loop the chain through both points on the ground and the wall, through the bike frame.

That should then make the bike frame the weakest point.

Already got plans to add an alarm and a GPS system.

Also considering an alarmed motion detection system both on the bike and in the yard where the bike is, remote controlled and hardened inside of a steel case, battery backup and mains fed to it.
What is the wall made of exactly?

One chain and two locks is better than a single loop. Then you essentially have two chains and locks. Both must be defeated.

What kind of bike is it?
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:53 AM   #11
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I'm pretty sure its brick layered over with cement.

There is however a sturdy looking set of cement slabs/steps ontop of this, what would be best to anchor to, the cement slab or the brick wall with a layer of cement over it ? I'm thinking the slab...

But if I put the anchor directly underneath the cement slab that will defeat a rather easy point of attack, from the top inbetween the wall and the anchor I bet you could get some leverage, but not if the cement slab is covering over the top of it... The cement slab comes out about an inch over the edge of the wall.

I'll take a photo tomorrow, its dark here at the moment.

A '77 XT500, not exactly the most expensive thing but if you knew the people around here they'd think it was worth a million bucks, and I'm gonna pour at least 2 grand into it so I want to protect my investment. More than that I want to deny them from getting ahold of it and riding it.

I also might want another bike later on.

Here is its thread: http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=876530

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Old 04-09-2013, 07:16 PM   #13
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haha..

Here is where its going:

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nothing you can do will stop someone if they really want what you have. all you can do, of course, is slow them down.

and, at some point (which varies f=with the value of the bike, and the environment in which it sits), spending more doesn't increase the "security."

fearing your neighbors . . .. .I can't imagine staying ina situation like that . . . . . .

best of luck!
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Old 04-10-2013, 07:16 PM   #15
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nothing you can do will stop someone if they really want what you have. all you can do, of course, is slow them down.
Exactly, I know this :)

Even IF somehow I got the footage on CCTV, showing their faces clearly, there is a chance that the cops wouldn't follow it up.

Cops here are pretty useless for anything. Numerous times I've had to call the cops and they ended showing up an hour later both times.

Ambulances however will come to your door, within 30 minutes!

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fearing your neighbors . . .. .I can't imagine staying ina situation like that . . . . . .

best of luck!
For people on the lower end of poverty its a certianty and a daily occurance, in Australia at least they also have to put up with regular bashings, house break-ins, theft of their personal belongings, backstabbing, spreading of lies, deceit and fraud. Usually related to drugs.

You could say that Australia has a huge drug problem, but America also has a huge prison population problem, we've decided to deal with it by simply letting the drugs roam free, considering them legal but turning a blind eye, even if they destroy peoples lives. What pisses me off the most about it though is that the lives of the drug pushers childrens are usually very rough and the kid ends up turning to drugs before they're even an adult.

Age 12, Tobacco or Alcohol first.
Age 13, Pot. Perscription drugs.
Age 14-Till the day they die, pot and alcohol and tobacco, extacy, steroids, and whatever else if they want to get serious about it.

The kids are also allowed to roam free and do whatever the hell that they want to, which usually involves criminal events, like underage rape, theft, arson, or in one serious case where one kid threw petrol onto a little girl who was playing and then lit a match just to see what would happen. She had burns to 50% of her body including her face. I talked to her when she came out of hospital, she was truly a beacon of light and always smiled.

I thankfully do not socialise with anyone and I don't do drugs.

Why do you think I want a motorbike? To get away from all of this shit! :)
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