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Old 11-15-2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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220v electric heaters of semi-permanent garage heating

I am getting a split mini with heat pump next summer. In the mean time, I'd like to keep my garage at 55-60F all winter long.

Can such electric heaters be left-on safely:

"Fahrenheat Utility Fan Cabinet Electric Space Heater with Thermostat"
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...llow&cId=PDIO1

to provide months long service at 55-60F?

How is it going to be on the electric bill @55? Our rates are 6cents per kWH for the first 1000 kWh and then it drops down to 4 cents for subsequent.
Thank you.
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Old 11-15-2014, 04:22 PM   #2
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The one in your link is only a 110VAC model. Needs a 20 amp circuit.

Most those little rink-dink, electric heaters from the home stores aren't worth squat.

The one you linked really won't do much to heat a garage. If it was a true 220VAC single phase, those run about $2000+ (not including wiring) and, would keep a garage warm. Look at cabinet unit heaters. Grainger

Very expensive to run but, they will heat a garage.
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Old 11-15-2014, 05:07 PM   #3
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Only if you aren't buying or get 40% off would I say grainger.

What is garage set up? Is it attached,detached ,insulated or open?
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Old 11-15-2014, 05:26 PM   #4
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I am getting a split mini with heat pump next summer. In the mean time, I'd like to keep my garage at 55-60F all winter long.

Can such electric heaters be left-on safely:

"Fahrenheat Utility Fan Cabinet Electric Space Heater with Thermostat"
http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?...llow&cId=PDIO1

to provide months long service at 55-60F?

How is it going to be on the electric bill @55? Our rates are 6cents per kWH for the first 1000 kWh and then it drops down to 4 cents for subsequent.
Thank you.

My parents heat thier 900 square foot two story house with one just fine. They have heated it this way for 30 years. I suspect it would heat a decently insulated two car garage fine.

The heaters will only last about 3 years or so in continuous service. You will also want to put a dryer / range plug on the heater . .. it will burn up the factory 20 amp plug.

Contrary to what someone said, this is a 220 volt heater.
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Old 11-15-2014, 05:31 PM   #5
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The one in your link is only a 110VAC model. Needs a 20 amp circuit.

Most those little rink-dink, electric heaters from the home stores aren't worth squat.

The one you linked really won't do much to heat a garage. If it was a true 220VAC single phase, those run about $2000+ (not including wiring) and, would keep a garage warm. Look at cabinet unit heaters. Grainger

Very expensive to run but, they will heat a garage.
4000W with a 20A input is not possible with 110VAC AND there are a plethora of sub $250 4000 -5000W 220VAC electric unit heaters available.



I have had one of these in my garage (24 x 28 with 12' ceiling, 2 heated walls) for years, it seems to add $25-35 a month to the electric bill in the winter to keep the garage at ~8°C.



http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded...5?N=5yc1vZc8oc
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:05 PM   #6
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Contrary to what someone said, this is a 220 volt heater.
You are correct, had to open the PDF to read the specs. It is a 220VAC, single phase.

Just looking at the specs posted from the OP & jasonmt's link, looks like they are good for ~300-400 sq ft.

Should keep a typical garage above 40 or more degrees (depending on outside temperature) if the garage is well insulated.

Gonna be hard to keep the garage at 55-60 if your temps outside drop down into the 20's or lower. Looks like you live in AR. May not have that problem too much like we are experiancing here in CO with temps of -8
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Old 11-15-2014, 06:11 PM   #7
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This is a detached but insulated garage. We live in Arkansas, so it's not Canada cold here. The average daily temperature is above 40 during the day, and about 30 at night, for the winter months of January, and February.
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Old 11-15-2014, 08:24 PM   #8
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it's electric heat...keeping an detached garage at 50-60 degrees 24/7.....you're going to see elevated bills. how high, well that all depends on you're personal pain threshold. I have the cadet 5000w model that is also advertised on the same site. I only turn it on when I intend to go in my attached garage and work for a few hours (2-3 times a week- two car garage, from your description, it looks like we have similar temps during the winter months)...even then, the bills are noticeable! I wouldn't ever consider leaving it on over night, for the money factor....I do have a lot of faith that it COULD be left unattended with impunity. if I have a project that requires the temp. to be maintained over night, I tent over and slip a small electric heater under the tent.

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Old 11-16-2014, 04:38 AM   #9
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5kW heater, 10-20˘ per kWh for electricity.
50˘~1$ per hour to run continuous. reduce that rate by the duty cycle that you are running (when cold it will be close to 100%). If you know your true electrical rates, use those.
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:49 AM   #10
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I have the Harbor Freight 220v forced air heater. Little guy, maybe 3000W (can't seem to find it on their website). It was heating a one bay garage with high ceilings. Took it a good while to get comfortable but could only manage so much.

There's no thermostat so I had to regulate it. I think it was about an extra $30 for me (working in the garage on a regular basis) on my bill.
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Old 11-16-2014, 04:52 AM   #11
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My parents heat thier 900 square foot two story house with one just fine. They have heated it this way for 30 years. I suspect it would heat a decently insulated two car garage fine.

The heaters will only last about 3 years or so in continuous service. You will also want to put a dryer / range plug on the heater . .. it will burn up the factory 20 amp plug.

Contrary to what someone said, this is a 220 volt heater.
here ya go .. 220v plug

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Old 11-16-2014, 05:04 AM   #12
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55-60 is really warm for a garage, that is what I keep my house at. I am cheap. It would take a bit of calculating to figure out how much power you would use but I guess it would be a lot. I would shoot for 40-45 degrees and dress warmer when working out there.
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Old 11-16-2014, 05:39 AM   #13
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How is it going to be on the electric bill @55? Our rates are 6cents per kWH for the first 1000 kWh and then it drops down to 4 cents for subsequent.
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That sounds cheap to me. Everyplace I've lived, the rates go up the more juice I use.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:00 AM   #14
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That sounds cheap to me. Everyplace I've lived, the rates go up the more juice I use.
Agree........link for 2012 rates. Nation avg 12.2 per kWh

https://www.pacificpower.net/about/rr/rpc.html

Most bills are price per kilowatt hour plus delivery fees based on use to get to 12.2 cent......so some locations .06 for kW plus .06 per kW delivery fees is possible. ???????

Some locations also have reduced rates for all electric homes with electric heat, some locations have two meters one for just heat.
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Old 11-16-2014, 06:16 AM   #15
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We have municipal power (and utilities for that matter). Everything but gas is municipal - garbage, power, water/waste water, internet, telephone. The rates are posted. They have actually gone up. They used to be 4cents.
$6 flat rate for delivery +kWh usage. We have summer and winter (October through March) rates.

For what is worth, we keep our house at 77F. It's very well insulated. The heater is gas operated.
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