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Old 04-10-2014, 06:15 PM   #3406
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Maybe I'm an idiot, but what's the advantage of a dedicated gps (and the associated headache) as opposed to just using the turn by turn map functions on the iPhone?

My iPhone gives me phone, gps, music, pandora, and Siri will read and respond to texts if I'm able...

Why complicate it?



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Because most of the places I ride (back country woods of PA) there is spotty cell service at best. take away the cell service and a cell phone is just a brick.
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:16 PM   #3407
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Just tested it without music and...





OK yelling works (well rather loud speech) but that could get annoying. Works just as I wanted, albeit with poor VOX sensitivity. We will test it out tomorrow and play around with it, but I suspect we will end up just using the jog dial.

Thanks to both of you for chiming in, much appreciated :)
go into the menu and see if there is a vox adjustment (sorry, its been a while since I have had mine hooked to a computer).
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Old 04-10-2014, 06:58 PM   #3408
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Vox will use more battery too. I use the jog dial. Don't want to hear a lot of chatter usually.


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Old 04-10-2014, 07:18 PM   #3409
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Because most of the places I ride (back country woods of PA) there is spotty cell service at best. take away the cell service and a cell phone is just a brick.
Technically, if you have maps loaded on the phone for off line use (Like Sygic or others), the phone still functions just fine as a GPS without cell service. The GPS and the cell service don't have any correlation.

Now if you are streaming active maps like Google Maps or other maps that aren't saved on the phone, yeah then it becomes pretty useless.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:19 PM   #3410
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Just tested it without music and...





OK yelling works (well rather loud speech) but that could get annoying. Works just as I wanted, albeit with poor VOX sensitivity. We will test it out tomorrow and play around with it, but I suspect we will end up just using the jog dial.

Thanks to both of you for chiming in, much appreciated :)
I think you'll eventually find that the Jog dial just works better.

Besides with VOX, we found it tends to cut off my wife mid sentence or if you pause too long. At least connecting with the jog dial, you stay connected until one of you disconnects you. Overall that just works better in my view.
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:43 PM   #3411
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x3n05 - you may not need to yell the whole conversation, just the beginning to initiate the VOX. I think the manual says it cuts out after 10-20 seconds of silence once initiated.

I've heard many people just tap the jog dial and just leave the comms open all day. Battery life really shouldn't be an issue.

Also, what are you using as your music source? You may be able to eliminate the SM10 if you load up the latest firmware and use the music sharing function directly with the headsets.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:24 PM   #3412
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Thanks all for your advice again.

After messing around for a while, I decided to upgrade the firmware on all units and it was then I found out about the music sharing ability just mentioned. I just tested it and it works great. I don't really need the phone hooked up at the moment so decided to just dump music on to the GPS and everything works great, music and and turn by turn to both headsets.

Also I only discovered (I really should research more before I buy things...) that the SM10 only has about 20M range which isn't great for when we are both riding (most of the time). With this music sharing feature I assume it will work over the max distance of the SMH10 which is much better.

We will test it tomorrow (as well as VOX, the settings in the software are pretty limited) but I guess I will have an unused (aside from testing out of the box) SM10 for sale . Now I better get back to the garage and finishing wiring up and putting the bike back together so we can actually go out.

Thanks again for all of your input, very helpful, great community
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:34 PM   #3413
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Read the section on Multipoint pairing in the manual and you should be able to easily add the phone back in.
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Old 04-11-2014, 12:04 AM   #3414
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The problem appears to be with my GPS (Garmin Monterra) it only connects at A2DP, which my phone tries to connect on as well, hoping for a firmware update on the GPS to fix that.
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Old 04-11-2014, 04:23 AM   #3415
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Technically, if you have maps loaded on the phone for off line use (Like Sygic or others), the phone still functions just fine as a GPS without cell service. The GPS and the cell service don't have any correlation.



Now if you are streaming active maps like Google Maps or other maps that aren't saved on the phone, yeah then it becomes pretty useless.


That's been my experience.

If I load my destination and hit start, it gets loaded whether I'm riding through areas of service or not.






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Old 04-11-2014, 05:44 AM   #3416
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The problem appears to be with my GPS (Garmin Monterra) it only connects at A2DP, which my phone tries to connect on as well, hoping for a firmware update on the GPS to fix that.
Don't wait too long, it will never happen. Garmin designed it that way.
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:18 AM   #3417
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The problem appears to be with my GPS (Garmin Monterra) it only connects at A2DP, which my phone tries to connect on as well, hoping for a firmware update on the GPS to fix that.
I addressed this a couple pages ago, pair the gps as the "phone" and your phone as a "device"...
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Old 04-11-2014, 06:25 AM   #3418
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The problem appears to be with my GPS (Garmin Monterra) it only connects at A2DP, which my phone tries to connect on as well, hoping for a firmware update on the GPS to fix that.
Should still work. P. 17 of the manual. You want to pair the GPS to the SMH10 w/ the A2DP profile and then to the phone w/ an HFP profile.
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:59 AM   #3419
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That's been my experience.

If I load my destination and hit start, it gets loaded whether I'm riding through areas of service or not.
Yeah if you load up your route in an area with service your fine. If you decide to deviate and you are in an area where you don't have service then you have a problem.

That is why I switched to an App that had the maps loaded on the phone. A couple of times I decided to change something in an area with no service and had to best guess the way as I couldn't load load the maps. This would also cause my previous route to be lost as well, until I could get back in range of service.

I have found there are a lot of areas in South Georgia that don't have service.
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Old 04-11-2014, 10:18 AM   #3420
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Yeah if you load up your route in an area with service your fine. If you decide to deviate and you are in an area where you don't have service then you have a problem.

That is why I switched to an App that had the maps loaded on the phone. A couple of times I decided to change something in an area with no service and had to best guess the way as I couldn't load load the maps. This would also cause my previous route to be lost as well, until I could get back in range of service.

I have found there are a lot of areas in South Georgia that don't have service.
Plus don't forget the "OLD" factor. Even though I have a Razr HD max which has a big screen, my Eyes are too OLD to see it while riding down the road.
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