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Old 05-10-2015, 08:36 AM   #1
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Lean Angle?

How far can you lean in a turn?
How do you learn the limit without exceeding the limit and lowsiding?

I know I can be faster in the curves, if I knew what the limit was.

I have leaned more than I thought I could when I saw I wasn't going to make a curve.

I'd hate to bang up my adventure bike on the pavement. Maybe I need to buy an old sport bike (and some leathers) and go find the limit.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:47 AM   #2
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Maybe I need to buy an old sport bike (and some leathers) and go find the limit.
you have just found the answer as it depends on so many factors so you'll never know for sure until you crash. One technique you may try as racer do,
hang down your inner knee as a probe of your lean.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:57 AM   #3
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And even that will vary based on lots of variables. Explore it on a track.
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Old 05-10-2015, 08:57 AM   #4
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Practice and more practice. Do it on a track where you are required to have the proper gear and are not a risk to others. And have fun!

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Old 05-10-2015, 11:26 AM   #5
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When my peg touches the (dry, clean, warm, even) ground that's a sure sign for me it's enough. Of course my bike could still go faster, but the designers had reasons to build some safety margin in.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:27 AM   #6
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Get some advanced training. The limits of tyre adhesion can be easily found if you're taking incorrect lines.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:51 AM   #7
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I'd hate to bang up my adventure bike on the pavement. Maybe I need to buy an old sport bike (and some leathers) and go find the limit.
Do it on a track, the limits of a bone stock 600 are flat out fatal if you screw it up.

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When my peg touches the (dry, clean, warm, even) ground that's a sure sign for me it's enough. Of course my bike could still go faster, but the designers had reasons to build some safety margin in.
Or your body position sucks.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:56 AM   #8
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Do it on a track, the limits of a bone stock 600 are flat out fatal if you screw it up.
This is one reason I rarely look at sport bikes.

A little Ninja or CB250 might be perfect for this learning experience, plenty of speed for the corners but nothing stupidly fast.

I'm nowhere near dragging a knee or peg.
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Old 05-10-2015, 11:58 AM   #9
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No a bad idea really, you can knee drag in a parking lot.

Find someone with a kids 80 and put on some leathers, you can get the basics there, the rest is applying it to real speed.

....which is where you get in trouble, if you can't judge the arc it can get hairy fast.
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:35 PM   #10
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From my experience, nearly all of the bikes I have owned run out of ground clearance and start scraping stuff before the tires run out of traction on clean dry pavement. That includes my dual sport bikes on Dual sport tires. Most bikes are capable of leaning more than the rider is comfortable with. As someone else already posted, the best place to practice this is on the track. If that is not feasible, find a nice twisty road and ride up and down it gradually increasing speed. Just don't increase your speed too much

Another option is to get some one to take pics or video of you riding around a curve. You will be surprised when what seems like a lot of lean angle really isn't.
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:42 PM   #11
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Or your body position sucks.
I wouldn't call it sucking body position if someone doesn't like to hang-off.
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Old 05-10-2015, 12:59 PM   #13
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I wouldn't call it sucking body position if someone doesn't like to hang-off.
Yes but some people lean the wrong way. They lean the bike but try to keep their body upright.
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:01 PM   #14
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Yes but some people lean the wrong way. They lean the bike but try to keep their body upright.
That's useful at slow speeds or in the dirt sometimes.
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Old 05-10-2015, 01:02 PM   #15
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Worry about staying on the road first.
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