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Old 04-27-2014, 02:43 PM   #1531
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Wear whatever you want but remember...

There's only two types of bikers - those who've had an accident and those who've yet to have one.
Myth.
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Old 04-27-2014, 05:37 PM   #1532
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Myth.
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Old 04-27-2014, 10:47 PM   #1533
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...BTW - "rode" is a verb and "road" is a noun. They may sound the same, but they're not and my brain twitches when I see folks conflate the two. They're not inter-changeable. So please be nice to my brain, I'm old and don't have all that much left.
You should have said "confuse", and interchangeable does not contain a hyphen.
Unless you were being sarcastic. If that is the case, hee hee, clever.
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Old 04-28-2014, 10:47 AM   #1534
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You should have said "confuse", and interchangeable does not contain a hyphen.
Unless you were being sarcastic. If that is the case, hee hee, clever.
Sadly I wasn't being sarcastic so that's my bad and I accept and welcome your correction :) althought there's an argument to be made for the use of "conflate".

As for the second - yeah, I'm just gonna go-ahead and stand by my use of the hyphen

And now back to your regularly scheduled programme - I am "mythless".
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Old 04-29-2014, 04:01 PM   #1535
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S.i.p.d.e

S.I.P.D.E." as a guideline
"S" = Scan (be aware of as much around you as possible).
"I" = Identify (Identify potential problems).
"P" = Predict (think about what COULD happen).
"D" = Decide (Decide what you want to do to avoid those potential problems) "E" = Execute (take action to move away from potential problems)."
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Old 04-30-2014, 10:20 AM   #1536
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When you see a girl washing a car, don't look at the girl. Look at the soapy water running out of the driveway into the street. .
And stop smoking, drinking, eating bacon, .......

When you see a girl washing a car.....stop and have a good look.
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Old 05-02-2014, 11:54 AM   #1537
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My MSF class taught us to "NEVER use brakes when leaned over at speed. If a corner tightens up or you're going too fast, lean more."

I took away that braking in a turn = "automatic crash" instead of somewhere between "no big deal" and "saved my bacon."

Seriously - noob me probably would've slammed into an obstacle rather than brake. WTF they teach that, I have no idea.
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Old 05-02-2014, 01:49 PM   #1538
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My MSF class taught us to "NEVER use brakes when leaned over at speed. If a corner tightens up or you're going too fast, lean more."

I took away that braking in a turn = "automatic crash" instead of somewhere between "no big deal" and "saved my bacon."

Seriously - noob me probably would've slammed into an obstacle rather than brake. WTF they teach that, I have no idea.
I'd not use the brakes whilst leaned over, or, if I did, it'd be a measure of last resort. Far better to straight up, reduce the lean angle, and them slam on the brakes.

But using them, in anger, in a tight bend, is gonna end in a high-side 9 times outta 10.

Slow in, constant to the apex, accelerate out. To a noob I'd say that "slow in" is probably slower than you think. Corners are a thing you want to get right, first time, every time and each one is good practice for the next.
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:22 PM   #1539
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I'd not use the brakes whilst leaned over, or, if I did, it'd be a measure of last resort. Far better to straight up, reduce the lean angle, and them slam on the brakes.

But using them, in anger, in a tight bend, is gonna end in a high-side 9 times outta 10.
You make my point for me.

Altho it sounds like you're talking about emergency braking... I'm talking about scrubbing some speed while leaned by applying brakes. This was taught as a giant 'no-no' in my MSF class, regardless of how much traction is available.
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:37 PM   #1540
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You make my point for me.

Altho it sounds like you're talking about emergency braking... I'm talking about scrubbing some speed while leaned by applying brakes. This was taught as a giant 'no-no' in my MSF class, regardless of how much traction is available.
The way I am reading this, both posts are referring to bottoming the front brake lever to the bar and stomping the rear brake pedal as far as it will go (as might be done in an emergency) while in a turn. That specification is important. It needs to be differentiated from applying some braking force to facilitate or modulate traction in a turn. Trail braking falls under this heading*.




*I wonder as I type this, 'will anyone argue that trail-braking is not a thing outside of a track setting?' It wouldn't be my first time encountering such refutations.
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:27 AM   #1541
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:23 PM   #1542
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Old 05-05-2014, 07:30 PM   #1543
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*I wonder as I type this, 'will anyone argue that trail-braking is not a thing outside of a track setting?' It wouldn't be my first time encountering such refutations.
I trail brake a lot, street pavement and any dirt I can find. Usually rear.
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Old 05-06-2014, 11:18 AM   #1544
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- Don't drop your bike on your first day of riding, right in front of your house. Y'know, hypothetically. I wouldn't know anything about that.

- Turn... your... head.

- Try not to sneeze inside your helmet.

- It's always colder than you think it is - layer up, or bring it with you.

- It's been said 10 trazillion times (that's, like, a lot): ATGATT!

- Learn how to do slow-speed U-turns (I still suck, but am improving).

- Learn how to brake properly (I locked up my rear a few weeks ago, because I didn't have enough front engaged).
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Old 05-06-2014, 12:50 PM   #1545
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My MSF class taught us to "NEVER use brakes when leaned over at speed. If a corner tightens up or you're going too fast, lean more."

I took away that braking in a turn = "automatic crash" instead of somewhere between "no big deal" and "saved my bacon."

Seriously - noob me probably would've slammed into an obstacle rather than brake. WTF they teach that, I have no idea.
I've entered a turn too fast and had to bleed off speed. I can only lean so far before parts start dragging the road. In those cases, I use the rear brake (judiciously, not stomp and lock them up). By rear braking only (sometimes called trail brake) I bleed off speed without changing the geometry (much) of the front end (therefore, no fork "bob").

I've only been riding 30 years so I might be doing something wrong.

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