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Old 05-09-2011, 05:34 PM   #616
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When you need to turn back on a track that is getting too demanding, but is too narrow for turning back...
Gravity is your friend. Use gravity as your reverse gear, as you make a 3-point (or n-point) turn. Point the front wheel at the higher edge of the track, reverse by gravity, forward by engine power, repeat n times until you're able to turn back to where you came from.
(Does this make sense to you native English speakers?)
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Old 05-09-2011, 05:42 PM   #617
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:50 PM   #618
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Don't lose your horn button. Apparently it can be really difficult to find when you need it. Especially if you have loud pipes.
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Old 05-10-2011, 06:47 AM   #619
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Old 05-10-2011, 12:30 PM   #620
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Don't lose your horn button. Apparently it can be really difficult to find when you need it. Especially if you have loud pipes.

I lost my horn button once....luckily I found it at local bar hitting on an electrical outlet.
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Old 05-10-2011, 02:48 PM   #621
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I got one (pounded in to me by an MSF instructor):
Never do the" two finger front brake" thing (its a "bad" habit), use the whole hand every time. it creates a muscle memory habit and even as you grab with only two; things may require full emergency braking with no notice. its best to grab with all four fingers and use necessary pressure. In a dire emergency you want to reflexively react reaching with all four.
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Old 05-10-2011, 07:03 PM   #622
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I got one (pounded in to me by an MSF instructor):
Never do the" two finger front brake" thing (its a "bad" habit), use the whole hand every time. it creates a muscle memory habit and even as you grab with only two; things may require full emergency braking with no notice. its best to grab with all four fingers and use necessary pressure. In a dire emergency you want to reflexively react reaching with all four.

Four fingers is what they teach in the MSF because they want to make sure you are rolling off the throttle completely while applying the brake.

Many experienced riders roll off the throttle just fine while using one or two fingers on the brake.

That said, I still use all four fingers on the brake lever because I learned that way and am comfortable riding that way. I have no trouble blipping the throttle for downshifts while applying the brake this way either.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:39 PM   #623
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I read a GREAT analogy in Motorcyclist today, in Keith Codes Column.

He said that a rider that attended one of his classes, thought he knew a lot, as he had 17 years experience, BUT after the class realized he had ONE year experiance, he repeated 17 times!!

I related this to my first 13 years skiing experiance, i thought I was good and skied almost anything. Then I went to join the National Ski Patrol and realized how LITTLE skill I actually had. The worst part was I had to UN-LEARN, 13 years of bad habits in order to learn to become a skilled skier.


So for a nooB, GET TO A TRACK DAY/RIDING SCHOOL and learn the RIGHT way, before you ingrain those bad habits!
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Old 05-12-2011, 03:07 PM   #624
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you will ride on a race track in a totally different to ridding on the road.
so just learn the right way on the road with a good training school.
dont use a track day an less you wont to go very very fast.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:26 PM   #625
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Is anyone mention the preride bike inspection?

I alway inspected the bikes before ride. It take about 10 minutes or so.

Check the tires air pressure.
Make sure all the lights work in ordered.
Make sure chains has no kinks and lube properly. (if your bike has chain drive)
Check clutch and the brake cables.
Check nuts and bolts and make sure there's no missing.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:39 PM   #626
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I got one (pounded in to me by an MSF instructor):
Never do the" two finger front brake" thing (its a "bad" habit), use the whole hand every time. it creates a muscle memory habit and even as you grab with only two; things may require full emergency braking with no notice. its best to grab with all four fingers and use necessary pressure. In a dire emergency you want to reflexively react reaching with all four.
I am coming from trail riding. When trail riding, you don't use all four fingers. Even after MSF course, I still can't use all my four fingers on clutch or the brake. i am the most comfortable using two fingers and two fingers all time on the clutch and the brake.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:49 PM   #627
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As a n00b I won't let my wife ride with me until I get a couple more classes and some more miles under my belt. Yeah its fun and I wan't us both to enjoy it but is my lack of experience worth loosing her. Hell NO!

Get comfortable with your bike first and a lot of sit time.
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Old 05-12-2011, 06:56 PM   #628
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It might have been said but worth saying again:

Ride at YOUR own pace! If you got a buddy and he is leaving you behind in the twisties, let him go! If he isn't waiting up for you at the end, don't ride with him anymore!
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Old 05-12-2011, 07:54 PM   #629
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you will ride on a race track in a totally different to ridding on the road.
so just learn the right way on the road with a good training school.
dont use a track day an less you wont to go very very fast.
Sorry, those statements are total BULL $hit.

Going toe a track day/riding school, and utilizing the instructors skill and knowledge will teach you to trust and control your bike. It teaches the importance of being alert, keeping eyes level, teaches trusting the bikes capability, LOOKING through the turn, being SMOOTH, choosing correct lines, reading a corner, proper braking skill etc etc.

Although there are some good schools that train on the road, NONE of them give you one on one feedback every 20 minutes of riding, and 20 minutes of instruction BEFORE you turn a wheel again.

AND BTW, track days SLOW most people on the street!

So tell me again how all these skills are worthless on the street

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Old 05-13-2011, 12:10 AM   #630
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Sorry, those statements are total BULL $hit.

Going toe a track day/riding school, and utilizing the instructors skill and knowledge will teach you to trust and control your bike. It teaches the importance of being alert, keeping eyes level, teaches trusting the bikes capability, LOOKING through the turn, being SMOOTH, choosing correct lines, reading a corner, proper braking skill etc etc.

Although there are some good schools that train on the road, NONE of them give you one on one feedback every 20 minutes of riding, and 20 minutes of instruction BEFORE you turn a wheel again.

AND BTW, track days SLOW most people on the street!

So tell me again how all these skills are worthless on the street
i did advance training on the road and learned to ride the right lines in to corners and reading the road all done on the road.
and i was going to do a track day in the uk but as i dont have full leathers i cant go on the track. but i was going to the track so i can ride very fast safely as i wont beable to hit the speed on the road with out being done.
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