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Old 05-18-2012, 11:06 PM   #901
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should be shown in schools nationwide!
teach your children well.
too late for most of the self absorbed commuter/grocery/coffee shop/kids to school, type drivers,,hard to pay attention when you have none to start with.
Coat that with a heavy layer of daily routine just to make it really boring, and you have a fleet of in-attentive drivers, for whatever reason.
I still ride beleeving,,none of them can see me,,and they are all trying to kill me!
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:28 AM   #902
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Riding in the rain ....... tips?

How about a summary on riding in the rain?
Here's what I've got ... what am I missing:

  1. Slow down - expand following distances and don't let anyone tailgate you
  2. The roads will be ESPECIALLY slick right after it starts raining as oil left on the roadway will float to the top,
    and has not yet had time to be washed to the curb.
  3. Be very careful of standing water .. hydroplaning on a motorcycle is no fun
  4. Be alert for water thrown up at you from other vehicles
  5. Gear up to stay dry
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:45 AM   #903
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How about a summary on riding in the rain?
Here's what I've got ... what am I missing:

  1. Slow down - expand following distances and don't let anyone tailgate you
  2. The roads will be ESPECIALLY slick right after it starts raining as oil left on the roadway will float to the top,
    and has not yet had time to be washed to the curb.
  3. Be very careful of standing water .. hydroplaning on a motorcycle is no fun
  4. Be alert for water thrown up at you from other vehicles
  5. Gear up to stay dry
i find that rain-x on my visor helps keep it clear of rain drops. dish soap on the inside helps keep it from fogging.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:12 AM   #904
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All the painted lines are slick as ice.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:56 PM   #905
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i find that rain-x on my visor helps keep it clear of rain drops. dish soap on the inside helps keep it from fogging.
Do not do this if you a Scorpion helmet... you will ruin it. It has a anti-fog film on it that is ruined by Rain-X and Windex.

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All the painted lines are slick as ice.
^^ this!
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:20 PM   #906
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Do not do this if you a Scorpion helmet... you will ruin it. It has a anti-fog film on it that is ruined by Rain-X and Windex.
good to know.

works well on my KBC. i guess check your brand before applying it.
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Old 05-22-2012, 07:26 AM   #907
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Don't use RainX on plastics.
it never hurt my plastic visor. fwiw. maybe i've just been lucky.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:45 AM   #908
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Lemon Pledge, great on everything.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:35 AM   #909
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Lemon Pledge, great on everything.
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:40 AM   #910
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[*]Be very careful of standing water .. hydroplaning on a motorcycle is no fun
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:20 AM   #911
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I wish someone would have told me before I started riding about checking your shoes/boots for pavement traction BEFORE you get on your bike. I've only gone about 4,300 miles now on my little 275cc scooter, so am really still a noob, but have learned a lot from reading forums and threads like this.

Sometimes for that short store run right down the street I may not put on ATGATT. I will still at minimum wear my jacket/full face helmet, but darnit, had to find out the hard way about shoes. Since this is a starter bike for me, and I plan to get into a sport tourer in the next couple of years, I sometimes practice at stops with only putting the left leg down. Well, that didn't work out too well one day when my foot nearly slid right out, taking me and the bike with it. So to counter this possibility I have learned to:

1) Literally go out onto the street with each pair of shoes I could possibly wear, and test the shoes for traction on pavement and also on sandy/gravel type stuff. Do they slide easily? Then put them into the "never wear these shoes for riding" bin. A decent pair of work boots can suffice for short runs, and usually have much better traction on most surfaces than a typical pair of shoes. Of course, the full fledged motorcycle boots are best, and meant for this.

2) Try best I can to LOOK at where I am about to step when coming to a stop. If it's a bad spot, stopping another foot or two before or after that spot can help. And if worse comes to worse, be ready in case your foot takes off, to accelerate and stop the fall- but only if the path ahead is clear. This is not advisable at intersections, since you could pull out in front of a cager and get killed. Better to just fall over in that case.

3) Best for me has been to keep both feet on the ground and keep the bike as vertical as possible, with no lean either way. That, and at a minimum, some traction tested shoes or boots- and all has been well since.
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Old 05-25-2012, 07:37 AM   #912
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This is something I lost sight of: a larger displacement bike does not necessarily bring more fun or excitement to your riding.

After having run the usual displacement path of bigger always bigger, I now find myself mostly riding a 320 lb 650 cc single rather than my hugely powerful liter bike. The reason is simple - I am riding the 650 cc single to a good percentage of its capacity while I can't do that with the liter bike (even if I had the skill) on the street.

People starting out often get recommendations to start small which is a good recommendation but they then too regard the small as a penalty box to be escaped from on their way to a real bike of 1 liter or more displacement. Well, I did it and now I've come back.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:34 AM   #913
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This is something I lost sight of: a larger displacement bike does not necessarily bring more fun or excitement to your riding.

After having run the usual displacement path of bigger always bigger, I now find myself mostly riding a 320 lb 650 cc single rather than my hugely powerful liter bike. The reason is simple - I am riding the 650 cc single to a good percentage of its capacity while I can't do that with the liter bike (even if I had the skill) on the street.

People starting out often get recommendations to start small which is a good recommendation but they then too regard the small as a penalty box to be escaped from on their way to a real bike of 1 liter or more displacement. Well, I did it and now I've come back.
Agreed, I bought a DR650, and less then a year later got my hands on a DL1000. I figured I would ride the DL and sell the DR... 3 months later the DL was gone, why? It was too big for my frame, too heavy, and too powerful. I alway caught myself going way too fast, and getting cocky on it. The DR remains, and I just bought a 250 scooter to complement it on the road.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:06 AM   #914
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In my case, it's a BMW G-X 650cc as my always ridden bike and the Tiger 1050, a magnificent bike, which is getting lite use. Every time I ride the Tiger I wonder why I don't ride it more often but then the next day, I fire up the BMW and ride off on that.
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Old 05-26-2012, 08:57 PM   #915
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I haven't read this whole thread (its a long thread) but the pages I read didn't include this one: Differentiate between braking and swerving.
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