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Old 04-05-2014, 01:06 PM   #1
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Why does the 1190 exhaust have to shoot the stars?

Hi,

I've been thinking about which panniers & rack to buy. I would like to be able to keep the panniers on when I commute and lane split. So I am looking for something narrow.

The main problem is the stock exhaust which invades the space of the right pannier.


The Wings Shorty exhaust is way better / smaller:


I was watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfPc_6IlPEU the excellent video from Nerb1 (Thanks Nerb1 !) on installing a Wings Shorty,
and I noticed that Wings uses a FLANGE !





So this is a straight flange, but it should be possible to make a bent one where the exhaust is oriented more towards behind you rather than up shooting at the stars.

It seems also possible to add an extension for the top mounting bracket so that one can mount it in a more horizontal way. Something like:



Am I missing something, or does that look like a reasonable mounting position?

With that, one could really use hugging pannier racks as the exhaust would be below the cases.

What do you think?
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Old 04-05-2014, 02:18 PM   #2
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Sure, why not? Did you Photoshop the last picture?

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Old 04-05-2014, 04:57 PM   #3
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Did you Photoshop the last picture?
Almost. I GIMP'd it.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:43 PM   #4
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Figuring stuff out gets some pretty neat mods that others may not think of but one "off-the shelf" option...unless the capacity is less than desired; Jesse Luggage is working on narrow boxes and depending on what exhaust you have, you can shift the mount in a tad more. They didn't suit my needs but seem to be the closest fit set-up of all that are around.
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Old 04-07-2014, 05:37 AM   #5
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I suppose the only problem might be is the designers will say that the lines of the exhaust don't run parallel to the back of the seat area of the KTM.

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Old 04-09-2014, 12:12 PM   #6
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Hello guys,

I'm Gorazd Marovic, the producer of WINGS exhausts. The task is not so simple as it looks. Photoshop has no rigidity problems but in real life there is question how the long link between muffler's clamp and frame bracket will work. Not to mention that heat shield wont fit any more. Finally this almost horizontal position looks rather odd don't you think. But I must admit it would be practical.
In the end it all depends on how many guys really want such muffler?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:23 PM   #7
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I have the Hepco and Becker 30 litre cases which sit high (which some don't seem to like) but are narrower and equal on both sides and have the Wings shorty exhaust.

Works perfect for my needs which is mainly road based.








The only front view I have at the moment

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Old 04-09-2014, 02:55 PM   #8
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I have a Wings shorty also and would love to have the option to lower the muffler when using bags. I love the shorty (thanks Gorazd) and so far by changing to the shorty and going with a Shorai battery I have shaved close to 17lbs off the bike.
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Old 04-11-2014, 02:50 AM   #9
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I have a Wings shorty also and would love to have the option to lower the muffler when using bags. I love the shorty (thanks Gorazd) and so far by changing to the shorty and going with a Shorai battery I have shaved close to 17lbs off the bike.
Yep, option is the word.

I believe we could keep the wings shorty as-is, and create two optional parts:

1) a bent flange

2) a rigid (boxed?) extension ( 3" or 4"? what do you think? )

That way we could mount it as intended or mount it low, depending on the mood/needs.

Goradz, how much would you charge for a one-off prototype of the above two parts?
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Old 04-11-2014, 07:01 AM   #10
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Sorry but I wouldn't go "half way" making only bent flange and bracket extension. There is a need for a whole new heat shield since current one couldn't be used with the "horizontal" position of the muffler. And making such new shield is a complex and cost intensive job (new tools...).
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underslung exhaust

Looks like I need to talk to a rack manufacturer AND an exhaust manufacturer at the same time to get an underslung exhaust system with enough rigidity

Probably something like that:

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