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Old 10-12-2012, 10:33 PM   #271
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Excellent info in this thread.

As I've recently managed to add 2 LC4's to my shed(2000 620supercomp & 2003 640supermotard) I thought I might read up and see if I could pick-up a few tips on oil changes..........WELL HOLY SHIT BATMAN....what a procdure JUST to do an oil change,so OK I thought you can do this, but the more I read this thread the more scared I got until I thought buggerit just go and do it you pussy!!!

Well it's done and it was a peice of piss!

I didn't even have to go to the hardware store.
I just happened to have a length of clear plastic tube that was the exact diameter of the top burp plug-hole,I found that I could actually screw it into the hole half a dozen times for a perfect seal.The gods must have been smiling because bugger-me the other end of the hose fitted perfectly on to my funnel.
So I did'nt have to stand there and hold the funnel I put it between the brake-lever and throttle.Then I put an elastic band around the brake-lever and throttle so the funnel didn't slip out.

This all worked quiet well and I had brew while I watched the oil drain into the frame.Put the plug in about half a turn and started her up,after a few sec's I saw oil start weep out of the threads and I tightened the plug up....no mess...no probs...easy-peezy.

It's still a hell of a procedure though!
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Old 10-13-2012, 05:40 AM   #272
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This all worked quiet well and I had brew while I watched the oil drain into the frame
BallBag... you'll improve with practice. I can usually manage 3 beers while the oil fills the downtube.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:03 AM   #273
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I just fill the crankcase with oil and take the vent bolt all the way out for startup. It only takes about 10 seconds to fill the downtube.
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Old 10-13-2012, 10:14 AM   #274
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I just fill the crankcase with oil and take the vent bolt all the way out for startup. It only takes about 10 seconds to fill the downtube.
Some might quarrel that 10S without oil pressure is just a little too long... YMMV
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Old 10-13-2012, 11:11 AM   #275
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Some might quarrel that 10S without oil pressure is just a little too long... YMMV
Meh. You would have to run it way longer than 10 seconds to get rid of the oil wedges on the bearings. I also prefill the oil filter. I do that on every vehicle I own though.
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Old 10-13-2012, 12:24 PM   #276
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Depends on which oil you choose to inflict upon your LC4.
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Old 10-13-2012, 02:28 PM   #277
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Depends on which oil you choose to inflict upon your LC4.
Oh no you didn't...

My current blend is one quart of Mobil 1 and one quart of Amsoil 20-50 diesel oil. Just because that's what I had laying around. My next oil change will be dino Valvoline VR1 20-50 racing oil. Added zinc in it that helps cushion bearings and gears. The sticker on the backbone of my frame actually says it takes dino oil in 15-40. That means my 640 swings both ways when it comes to oil.
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Old 10-13-2012, 08:31 PM   #278
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Guys,

What about a compromise, say push a couple of hundred cc's into the maintube and then start the engine?Warm it up, check for leaks.
That's what I do.

Dip stick in, righty tighty.
Recheck the oil plug for tightness(again).

Burped, good to go.

Nope.

Wait 5 minutes, recheck the oil level.

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Old 10-14-2012, 06:37 AM   #279
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Burped, good to go.
That comes right after the third beer...
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:46 AM   #280
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If you can find a hand pump - for filling auto gearboxes and the like - at an parts store, you can fill it w/ the oil for the frame and pump it in through your plastic tube. I have to fill the pump twice to get the required amount in, but it's still allot faster than waiting for the gravity feed funnel and tube.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:15 AM   #281
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If you can find a hand pump - for filling auto gearboxes and the like - at an parts store, you can fill it w/ the oil for the frame and pump it in through your plastic tube. I have to fill the pump twice to get the required amount in, but it's still allot faster than waiting for the gravity feed funnel and tube.

Something like this:



comes handy when you have to fill the frame. It takes 500ccm and it is just enough to fill the frame and burp it. BTW some KTM manuals (r.g. 400 LC4 Military) say You can burp down at oil line at the left cover.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:28 AM   #282
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If you can find a hand pump - for filling auto gearboxes and the like - at an parts store, you can fill it w/ the oil for the frame and pump it in through your plastic tube. I have to fill the pump twice to get the required amount in, but it's still allot faster than waiting for the gravity feed funnel and tube.
+1, I picked up a cheepo hand pump at the auto parts store that screws into the top of a quart of oil. allows for pretty close measurement and is much faster than waiting for nature to take her course. (wait, what are we talking about?)

I think this is the one I have:
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...9/N0728.oap?ck (searched for hand pump)

there's no getting around a bit of a mess, but the time savings makes up for it.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:18 PM   #283
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Something like this:



comes handy when you have to fill the frame. It takes 500ccm and it is just enough to fill the frame and burp it. BTW some KTM manuals (r.g. 400 LC4 Military) say You can burp down at oil line at the left cover.
I have just purchased a syringe like that and it has completely revolutionised oil changes on my 640 adv
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:19 AM   #284
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I also prefill the oil filter.
Tried that this evening and it only took a small amount.
No way did this filter fill up.
Seems to have some form of valve in the centre....Not sure.
Tried pressing it down but it was solid.

Am I missing something here?
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:42 PM   #285
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Tried that this evening and it only took a small amount.
No way did this filter fill up.
Seems to have some form of valve in the centre....Not sure.
Tried pressing it down but it was solid.

Am I missing something here?
No, you are not missing something...........IIRC, the spin on filter only takes about 100cc's when pre filling. Just pour in as much as you can and spin it on.

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