Guide to changing the oil on an LC4 - Page 20

LC4nicator · 12-11-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Droptarotter

No, you are not missing something...........IIRC, the spin on filter only takes about 100cc's when pre filling. Just pour in as much as you can and spin it on.

Cheers

Thanks Mate.....Appreciate the quick response

LC4nicator · 12-12-2012, 01:02 PM

Sorry guys....another question....

If we are to fill the frame with 0.6ltrs & the crankcase with 1.3ltrs, why is the manual specifying 2.1ltrs?
Are they taking in account the extra 0.2 ltrs in the filter and lines?
Sorry to be pedantic however, I like to be certain of things.
Cheers.

Droptarotter · 12-12-2012, 05:18 PM

The Factory lists the oil capacity from the motor never being filled. No matter how long you let it drain you will not get all the oil out.

So.....put 1.3L in a bucket......pour as much as you can out of the 1.3L bucket into the spin on filter. Pour the rest into the engine.Add .6L to the frame. Start, burp, shut off, tighten frame filler plug, recheck.

That should put the oil level a little above centre in the oil sight glass.

Hope that helps!

LC4nicator · 12-12-2012, 05:54 PM

Thanks once again Droptarotter.
I suspected this to be the case.
Just looking for consensus I guess.
Cheers

warewolf · 12-12-2012, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LC4nicator

If we are to fill the frame with 0.6ltrs & the crankcase with 1.3ltrs, why is the manual specifying 2.1ltrs?

Because the guide was written for Creeper's earlier-year bike with different values.You need to go through his guide cross-referencing your manual and adjust oil volumes and torque values to suit. This applies to all Creeper guides, indeed to any guide, any where!

I have annotated my paper copy in my garage "run book" and have also added the fastener sizes so I only have one point of reference: I find the torque value and the socket to grab from the one consolidated source. Makes life easier!

bmwktmbill · 12-13-2012, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LC4nicator

Thanks once again Droptarotter.
I suspected this to be the case.
Just looking for consensus I guess.
Cheers

Why not use the dipstick.
b

LC4nicator · 12-19-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwktmbill

Why not use the dipstick.
b

Sorry...just got back to this thread....
Unless I'm mistaken but there's no dipstick on my bike................and everyone can leave the comments about the rider to themselves!

bmwktmbill · 12-20-2012, 09:49 PM

'02 640a, dip stick is on the clutch case fill plug.
What does your owners manual say?
bill

Alik · 12-20-2012, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwktmbill

'02 640a, dip stick is on the clutch case fill plug.
What does your owners manual say?
bill

Bill, he've got an 05adv. Since 2003 HF LC4 engines have a lurking window in the clutch cover.

bmwktmbill · 12-21-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Alik

Bill, he've got an 05adv. Since 2003 HF LC4 engines have a lurking window in the clutch cover.

No dipstick?

OK.

Stupid idea.

But use the window.

bill

thanosktm620 · 01-27-2013, 04:59 AM

Hi guys

I have a question.

I have changed(for the first time alone) oils in my LC4 620 '97 but I forgot to drain the frame plug.

I filled in 2lt of oil(As I was told in the KTM dealer)but now the oil level is above max.
What should I do?Leave it until the engine spit the oil in airbox,remove some oil or do the procedure again from start?

gunnerbuck · 01-27-2013, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thanosktm620

Hi guys

I have a question.

I have changed(for the first time alone) oils in my LC4 620 '97 but I forgot to drain the frame plug.

I filled in 2lt of oil(As I was told in the KTM dealer)but now the oil level is above max.
What should I do?Leave it until the engine spit the oil in airbox,remove some oil or do the procedure again from start?

I would drain out the oil and refill with the proper amount, I know on the newer models the engine gets 1.3 L while the frame takes 0.6 L, yours is probably the same...

You could also just remove the dipstick and lay the bike on its side to drain out just enough oil to bring it to the correct level...In the future remember that if you don't drain the frame you still will have 30% dirty oil running through your engine...

warewolf · 01-30-2013, 12:16 AM

Old models are 1.3 + 0.6, newer ones are 1.5 + 0.6. /pedant. ;)

Get a big syringe extended with a bit of plastic tubing and suck the excess out through the oil filler.

Have you run the engine yet?

Cheers,
Colin

640 Armageddon · 01-30-2013, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thanosktm620

Hi guys

I have a question.

I have changed(for the first time alone) oils in my LC4 620 '97 but I forgot to drain the frame plug.

I filled in 2lt of oil(As I was told in the KTM dealer)but now the oil level is above max.
What should I do?Leave it until the engine spit the oil in airbox,remove some oil or do the procedure again from start?

+1 on getting it out of the system.
Otherwise just wait for it to get burned

As Colin said, use a syringe with an extension to suck the oil out of the engine. Easier and cleaner.

D.

thanosktm620 · 01-31-2013, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warewolf

Old models are 1.3 + 0.6, newer ones are 1.5 + 0.6. /pedant. ;)

Get a big syringe extended with a bit of plastic tubing and suck the excess out through the oil filler.

Have you run the engine yet?

Cheers,
Colin

Quote:

Originally Posted by 640 Armageddon

+1 on getting it out of the system.
Otherwise just wait for it to get burned

As Colin said, use a syringe with an extension to suck the oil out of the engine. Easier and cleaner.

D.

Colin....I just run the engine around the block for a couple of minutes.
I was thinking to remove the extra oil by the frame plug,but your way is more easier and cleaner as 640Armageddon said.

12-12-2012, 01:02 PM	#287
LC4nicator Certified Wino Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Oddometer: 416	Sorry guys....another question.... If we are to fill the frame with 0.6ltrs & the crankcase with 1.3ltrs, why is the manual specifying 2.1ltrs? Are they taking in account the extra 0.2 ltrs in the filter and lines? Sorry to be pedantic however, I like to be certain of things. Cheers. __________________ Conman62 in the "other world"......dirtbikeworld.net The beatings will continue untill morale improves! 2006 KTM 525 EXC

12-12-2012, 05:18 PM	#288
Droptarotter Studly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Cloverdale Oddometer: 833	The Factory lists the oil capacity from the motor never being filled. No matter how long you let it drain you will not get all the oil out. So.....put 1.3L in a bucket......pour as much as you can out of the 1.3L bucket into the spin on filter. Pour the rest into the engine.Add .6L to the frame. Start, burp, shut off, tighten frame filler plug, recheck. That should put the oil level a little above centre in the oil sight glass. Hope that helps! __________________ HP2 Sport, R1200S, R100S, KTM 640 Adventure, KTM 520 EXC/Motard, Yamaha RZ350, Hodaka 125 Wombat

12-12-2012, 05:54 PM	#289
LC4nicator Certified Wino Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Oddometer: 416	Thanks once again Droptarotter. I suspected this to be the case. Just looking for consensus I guess. Cheers __________________ Conman62 in the "other world"......dirtbikeworld.net The beatings will continue untill morale improves! 2006 KTM 525 EXC

12-20-2012, 09:49 PM	#293
bmwktmbill Traveler Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Traveler Oddometer: 4,015	'02 640a, dip stick is on the clutch case fill plug. What does your owners manual say? bill __________________ '02 KTM 640 Adventure-lowered "On the road there are no special cases." Cormack McCarthy-The Crossing The faster it goes the faster it breaks. And high performance=high maintenance. Bill Shockley

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01-27-2013, 04:59 AM	#296
thanosktm620 n00b Joined: Aug 2009 Location: Athens Greece Oddometer: 6	Hi guys I have a question. I have changed(for the first time alone) oils in my LC4 620 '97 but I forgot to drain the frame plug. I filled in 2lt of oil(As I was told in the KTM dealer)but now the oil level is above max. What should I do?Leave it until the engine spit the oil in airbox,remove some oil or do the procedure again from start?