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Old 12-12-2004, 06:59 PM   #46
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Thank you for your replies. Are you guys saying that the mech who changed my oil is not the only mechanic who doesn't "burp the frame". I would think that if the manual tells you to do it. There must be a reason. I guess my main concern was that damage might have been done to my bike.
I will be doing all my own oil changes from now on and I will be "burping the frame"
Once again thank you for the valuable resource that you guys provide on this forum.
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Old 12-12-2004, 08:26 PM   #47
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I was under the impression that as long as you refilled with the correct quanity, either filling the sump (frame) to the fill plug, OR running the motor until oil comes out this same sump (frame) fill hole, you were good to go??

The frame sump has two standpipes, one terminates at the bottom of the sump, this is where the incoming oil enters, once the sump fills and the oil then reaches the top of the exit standpipe (level with the sump fill/bleed hole) the oil is sent through the fine filter (spin on) and on to the connecting rod bearings. (Another reason I like to fill the sump, rather then "pump" from the engine and bleed.)
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:27 PM   #48
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I think the initial poster (and Chris) were describing/addressing an oil change in which the frame plug was never touched, hence the downtube was never burped. Did I get it right, guys?

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I was under the impression that as long as you refilled with the correct quanity, either filling the sump (frame) to the fill plug, OR running the motor until oil comes out this same sump (frame) fill hole, you were good to go??

The frame sump has two standpipes, one terminates at the bottom of the sump, this is where the incoming oil enters, once the sump fills and the oil then reaches the top of the exit standpipe (level with the sump fill/bleed hole) the oil is sent through the fine filter (spin on) and on to the connecting rod bearings. (Another reason I like to fill the sump, rather then "pump" from the engine and bleed.)
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:41 PM   #49
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No, the mechanic did remove the filler plug (frame) and put in .6 of a litre of oil. But that is all. He then put the filler plug back and announced he was done. The oil level was correct on my bike when he was finished ( I did check when I got home).
He never did "burp" it though. I still think he missed a step. (running the engine until oil comes out the filler plug)

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Old 12-12-2004, 11:38 PM   #50
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No, the mechanic did remove the filler plug (frame) and put in .6 of a litre of oil. But that is all. He then put the filler plug back and announced he was done. The oil level was correct on my bike when he was finished ( I did check when I got home).
He never did "burp" it though. I still think he missed a step. (running the engine until oil comes out the filler plug)
Upon further reflection, I can see the point of burping the sump tank, by doing so, your insuring that most if not all the air is out of the case/oil system, and that the oil level will stay above the standpipe, thus insuring that oil and not air is feed to the con rod. (With the case filter cavity being horizontal, there is really no way to fill the cavity and thus displace the air.)
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Old 07-20-2005, 11:56 AM   #51
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Question

On pre 2003 models using a dip-stick to measure oil level, should we mesure it on a cold or warm engine? And sould we screw the dip-stick in or let it rest on the case?
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Old 07-20-2005, 01:51 PM   #52
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On pre 2003 models using a dip-stick to measure oil level, should we mesure it on a cold or warm engine? And sould we screw the dip-stick in or let it rest on the case?

Operating temp. Give it a few minutes to settle after you shut 'er down. Bike level. Screw in dipstick.
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Old 07-20-2005, 02:36 PM   #53
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Operating temp. Give it a few minutes to settle after you shut 'er down. Bike level. Screw in dipstick.
Manual says "cold", before a ride
And screw it (in)

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Old 07-21-2005, 02:46 AM   #54
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:10 AM   #55
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Old 08-02-2005, 11:43 AM   #56
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How ta change tha oil n filta on a KTM LC4

coming up next after I get back...

I'm having some trouble with understanding this guide, such as:

"Some of tha tricks described may be advantageous ta tha more seasoned drug deala. By no means is this guide ta be construed as tha best or only way ta do this job dogg. It is simply tha way that works fo` me. Read it at yo own peril."

or

"If you hizzy read tha previously posted valve inspect/adjust guide, you already know I'm a big fan of a clean n tranquil wizzork space. No P-to-tha-izzets, wife, kids, gerbils... whateva.
Drifty likes ta play his laid back blues music, ... but if Godsmack relaxes n focuses yo mind... Crizzay it!
Successful mobbin' is good mental therapy... "

See here for the full story:

http://sites.gizoogle.com/?url=http:...ad.php?t=57107

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Old 08-02-2005, 12:15 PM   #57
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coming up next after I get back...

I'm having some trouble with understanding this guide, such as:

"Some of tha tricks described may be advantageous ta tha more seasoned drug deala. By no means is this guide ta be construed as tha best or only way ta do this job dogg. It is simply tha way that works fo` me. Read it at yo own peril."

or

"If you hizzy read tha previously posted valve inspect/adjust guide, you already know I'm a big fan of a clean n tranquil wizzork space. No P-to-tha-izzets, wife, kids, gerbils... whateva.
Drifty likes ta play his laid back blues music, ... but if Godsmack relaxes n focuses yo mind... Crizzay it!
Successful mobbin' is good mental therapy... "

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http://sites.gizoogle.com/?url=http:...ad.php?t=57107

That's fuck'd up G.
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Old 08-02-2005, 12:18 PM   #58
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That's fuck'd up G.
Try the Whitehouse webpage...
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Old 08-02-2005, 12:25 PM   #59
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Try the Whitehouse webpage...
I don't think they'll let you on until you sign a loyalty oath...

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Old 10-22-2005, 10:58 AM   #60
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Thanks for the info!!!!!!!!

I just finished the first oil change on my '03 KTM 640 ADV (since purchasing the bike back in July). I appreciate the detailed instructions in this thread. Not to mention all of the helpful information I've obtained from other threads on this site.
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