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Old 04-27-2010, 02:54 PM   #16
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Nice report. Love the helmet cam. That hill that collected everybody must be one of those spots that are steeper than they look on camera. Nice job, looks like fun.
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All the hills on that course were pretty darn steep even if the helmet cam doesn't show it. Fortunately, traction was good and they presented little drama. Except the one you referred to. That's the thing about C class - I could do that hill in my sleep, but with everyone blocking the way, that adds a whole new dimension. I just wasn't carrying enough speed to carry my rear tire over that root where I got hung up. Fortunately, I got out pretty quickly, but those mistakes in awkward spots like that can really sap your energy, especially if you happen to drop the bike or something. You can expect a 200+ heart rate in pretty short order. At least I can.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:55 PM   #17
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. I'm working on it, though.
Yeah aren't we all. That was just my perspective. Seat of the pants is completely different and since your pants are the ones in the seat your perspective is what counts.
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Old 04-27-2010, 04:22 PM   #18
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I like the canoe thats just sitting there on the near the end of the video - what's it there for? Astheitcs?! Someone move the dammed thing!

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Old 04-27-2010, 04:52 PM   #19
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Canoe? Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis? lol
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Old 04-27-2010, 05:51 PM   #20
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Canoe? Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Willis? lol
18.43 in your video..... on the left.

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Old 04-27-2010, 06:10 PM   #21
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Old 04-28-2010, 06:38 AM   #22
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Thanks T-Bone! When are we going to see another installment from you? I've been waiting for a new race report from you and DC950. Some of your guys reports from a year or two ago provided a lot of inspiration for me to give it a go.
Since my 12 yo daughter did her first HS last weekend, I've got no choice but to stay one step ahead of her and try racing again next weekend... Last HS of the season, so I'll have a few months to recuperate.

here is a pic of her from last weekend...



which soon ended with this... Can't imagine who she learned this from..

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Old 04-28-2010, 07:42 AM   #23
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So right now, I'd need to increase my average speed by 3 or 4 MPH to win my class. Still doesn't sound like a lot, but carrying 3 or 4 more MPH through that tight stuff is going to take some serious effort. I think I can pick it up and go a bit faster in the more open sections. But each course is different and never having raced many of these courses before, the first time I've seen these is the first lap of the race, so I'm a little reluctant to go too fast not knowing what's coming up around the next bend.

But speed is definitely something I need to work on. Actually, it's probably technique that I need to work on, and then the speed will follow. I've been trying to stand more, and I think that is helping. But in the excitement of the race, it's easy to fall back on old (bad) habits. So I think I just need to suck it up, use proper technique even if I'm slower at first, and eventually the speed will come.....
As I get ready to start racing again, I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I think something has finally gotten into my thick head. Kenny Roberts might have said it but I know Keith Code wrote about it in his Twist of the Wrist books: you can go fast in the slow places but you have to go fast in the fast places.

Going 20% faster through a tight, twisty, 30 foot piece of trail is only going to gain you a bike length. It's also going to be seriously hard to go that much faster and will take a lot of energy yanking the bike around to do it. Going 20% faster over a 150 foot flowing section is going to gain you 5 or 6 bike lengths. It will be scary at first, but it's completely doable and definitely takes a lot less energy than a tight, gnarly section does. The long, flowing sections is where I tend to "rest" before the inevitable next bad place.

Something to think about.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:41 AM   #24
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here is a pic of her from last weekend...


Simply awesome!!!!!


GIRL N00B RACE THREAD NOW!!!!!

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Old 04-28-2010, 09:43 AM   #25
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Aha!
these are the skills I get from riding in Los Angeles for seven years..... this place is something else boy - lemme tell ya
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:12 PM   #26
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Simply awesome!!!!!


GIRL N00B RACE THREAD NOW!!!!!


+1

Father / Daughter Hare Scramble Team - how awesome would that be?
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Old 04-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #27
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Father / Daughter Hare Scramble Team - how awesome would that be?



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Old 04-28-2010, 01:26 PM   #28
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Going 20% faster through a tight, twisty, 30 foot piece of trail is only going to gain you a bike length. It's also going to be seriously hard to go that much faster and will take a lot of energy yanking the bike around to do it. Going 20% faster over a 150 foot flowing section is going to gain you 5 or 6 bike lengths. It will be scary at first, but it's completely doable and definitely takes a lot less energy than a tight, gnarly section does. The long, flowing sections is where I tend to "rest" before the inevitable next bad place.

Something to think about.
This is true. It was actually the smoother and faster sections that did not require both hands on the bars and intense concentration that I chose to find the camel back hose and take a drink. Funny, but the whole time I was doing that I was thinking about how much time I was losing just trying to get a drink, especially if it took a few tries to find the hose and get the end of it up under my helmet, one hand on the bar, all the while not crashing and trying not to lose too much time.

But your point is well taken - the fast sections are prime low hanging fruit for a better overall lap time.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:30 PM   #29
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Rd 2: Mountain Challenge

Here's a bird's eye view of the course, I thought this was pretty cool. It was pretty hilly. The video did not do some of those climbs justice. When I walked about the first mile or so in checking out the track before the race, I could barely walk up some of those uphills.

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Old 04-28-2010, 11:40 PM   #30
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Here's a bird's eye view of the course, I thought this was pretty cool. It was pretty hilly. The video did not do some of those climbs justice. When I walked about the first mile or so in checking out the track before the race, I could barely walk up some of those uphills.


hmmmm... I've never seen anyone race a blue square before....

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