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Old 04-29-2014, 12:02 PM   #1
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Is there no modern replacement for a Superhawk?

This is how I felt when Honda stopping making a big sporting twin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5R_pS0h5Qk

So yeah, I love my Superhawk 996. Love it. It does everything well. It's light, powerful, has gobs of torque down low, relatively comfortable, sounds great, looks nice, and never breaks, or needs anything other than oil... and lots of back tires. I kind of consider it the perfect commuter for my short ride to work and for rousting about town.

But it is from 1998, and there a few things...

The abysmal gas milage.

The short range.

The lack of ABS.

Carbs.

Wonky front suspension.

So-so rear suspension.

Terrible head light.

No gas gauge.

The fact that I am 6'4" and 225lbs, probably more than a little too large for it.

You get the idea.

So, I started thinking I might replace it one day. Then my thoughts turned to what next. And honestly, looking at the numbers, there's not a lot I am dying to test out. I have a short list of potential candidates. But I would love to hear from others here.

Before I get to that...

I commute a few miles in town everyday, no matter the season or weather. I like to mainly take short rides in the city and surrounding country side. I like to ride instead of wrench. My budget would be in the $5-8k range. I love torque, and really do not want a bike that I have wind out to 10k to hit peak power and torque. The mean, mean streets of Durham are, well, mean. Something with some suspension would be nice to soak up the broken pavement, and pot holes. I have around 20 years riding experience and prefer sport oriented bikes or dual sports. 1000cc (or there about seems to suit me well).

Here's my list so far...

SV1000S
FZ-09
FZ1
CB1000R
CB1100
Z1000
Ninja 1000

Thoughts? Suggestions? Why are there no Japanese sport twins in production now?
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:11 PM   #2
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Let me know your experiences while going for the inevitable test rides on all those bikes.

I will read your experiences with extra attention, because I am exactly the same size and find all those standards you listed to be too small.

The only standard that worked for me was a R2100R but Im sure this one is not sporty enough for you. The CB1100 you list, is really small, I'd be surprised if you think that one fits you fine. Same goes for the kawasaki Z's

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Old 04-29-2014, 12:15 PM   #3
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Get the CB1100.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:17 PM   #4
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Yeah, I have sat on a couple.

The CB1000R fit pretty well, but the CB1100 would definitely need some pegs lowered, seat raised, and probably new bars etc. I love the look of that bike and the design philosophy, but I was bummed when I saw how small it was. FZ-09 fit okay.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:21 PM   #5
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Thoughts? Suggestions? Why are there no Japanese sport twins in production now?
There's at least the Gladius. It gets....mixed reviews.


Does your commute take you along 147 and into the RTP?
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:25 PM   #6
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I think, at a large 6'4", the proverbial monkey f**king a football metaphor would apply to all SV650 variants. I should have said liter-class Japanese sport twins.

I just ride across Durham to Duke. All city streets, no highway.

And yes, I love look and sound of Ducati and Aprilia and Guzzi and BMW as well, but I am more the, "never maintain it, just change the oil" type.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:30 PM   #7
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Bandit 1250 might be worth a look

It's not a twin, but who cares? If you like torque it has more output than the Superhawk at half the revs.

They're solid a comfy bikes. I very nearly bought one on several occasions, but always felt the machine was a bit big for my height/weight as-is.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:36 PM   #8
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I'm in the same boat as you, except I'm 6'2" & bought a 1st gen SV650. I'm in the process of lowering it with Buell pegs, SVR adjustable rearsets, and maybe some new links. The buell pegs alone helped a lot.

Honestly, if you're just zipping through city streets, give the 996 a good thorough going-over and buy something else to commute to work on. Best of luck, and post pics!


(I sure do miss getting nachos at the Federal)
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:40 PM   #9
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Good suggestion. I like the Bandit, definitely a contender. I had a GSX1100G back in the day. It was a good bike. Smooth, fast, never broke.

Still, it's not nearly as light and flickable as the SH. We're talking like 100lbs+ more bike, which would pretty much eat that 20lbs of torque.

I do like the price.

I'll add that to the list.
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Old 04-29-2014, 12:41 PM   #10
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(I sure do miss getting nachos at the Federal)
Yep, the Fed has some tasty grub.

In fact, I might go there after work and get a beer.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:07 PM   #11
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I think if you relax the need for the bike to be a twin, you get a lot more options. Ninja 1k comes to mind, but there are many, many more.


If you do want a twin it's tougher - especially if ABS is in the equation (for now).
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:08 PM   #12
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SV-S or a Vstrom 1000.

I'd lean more toward the strom. If you can get one that's been farkled, you'll wind up with one that's had a remap/tune, some nice pipes, and maybe some bags.
You can buy a farkled 1k for cheap.

If I were riding into Duke and back, I'd want to sit up and see what's going on around me.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:15 PM   #13
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Heh, there is some rather glorious… er... uh, scenery along the commute on these warm days.

It's a "perk" they missed in the job description.

Yeah, I am sadly looking away from twins. I love the damn things so much though. They match my style of riding perfectly (lower speeds, short stop and go traffic, lovely noise).

That's why the FZ-09 has great appeal, that triple seems to spite out some pretty heavy torque and the bike weight is low. I am really looking forward to riding that one.
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Old 04-29-2014, 01:49 PM   #14
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Italian Honda?

Have you ever considered a gen1 or gen2 Aprilia Tuono? It doesn't check all of your boxes (abs, fuel mileage), but it is a big twin with tons of low-down torque, good looks, suspension, FI, etc. I haven't owned one, but I have ridden a few and coming from a SV1000n, it is high on my "need the cash to get the bike" list.
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Old 04-29-2014, 02:03 PM   #15
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if you want to go european:
maybe a speed tripple or the tiger 1050.
if you need a twin there is the multistrada or the ktm 1198.
at your size these might be more comfy for you.
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