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Old 05-20-2010, 06:39 AM   #1
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Flandis

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/sp...is.html?src=mv

So sad.

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Old 05-20-2010, 06:49 AM   #2
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:53 AM   #3
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Yup, sad for sure, but props should be given to guys who turn the corner onto a better road. I deplore Landis' cheating and deceipt. I applaud his decision to come clean and be honest.

About Lance: Where there's smoke, there's fire. Around Lance there's smoke, burning embers and trees aflame, yet there are those who deny the existence of the fire.

Time to get real about Lance.
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:08 AM   #4
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:24 AM   #5
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I'm getting to the point where I don't care what they do. Make it all legal and let science build us some superhuman freaks. The juicers seem to be able to stay ahead of the testers so let them do whatever it takes to win!

Has Armstrong ever tested positive?
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:03 AM   #6
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Gotta love the PR angle.

Email sent almost 3 weeks ago.
USA Cycling doesn't want it to get out before TofC so they sit on it.

It gets "leaked" right in the middle of the biggest domestic race of the season.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:45 AM   #7
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He also claimed Armstrong and Bruyneel paid an International Cycling Union official to cover up a test in 2002 after Armstrong reportedly tested positive for the blood-boosting drug EPO.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/articl...ng-allegations
It looks like he's heavy on the accusations but light on proof. Suicide by lawsuit?
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:00 PM   #8
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Armstrong just abandoned the TofC
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:02 PM   #9
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It looks like he's heavy on the accusations but light on proof. Suicide by lawsuit?
No one liked or believed Jose Canseco.
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:47 PM   #10
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Armstrong just abandoned the TofC
Apparently he was involved in a crash early in the race, got back on the bike for a while but was then taken away for xrays.

Timing sure is inauspicious.

Earlier he addressed the Landis pot-stirring:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/arms...is-allegations
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Old 05-20-2010, 12:47 PM   #11
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My take on the scenario:

I bet this is why it unfolded:
at the recent Tour de Gila, in which both Landis and Armstrong raced, Landis
probably reminded Lance that he took the bullet for the team by not ratting
anybody out. How so? French authorities told Floyd that they would brush his
incident under rug and he could keep his yellow jersey, if he gave them a "Fish
bigger than him". That would be Lance, whom the French love to hate. Floyd did
not do this. Lance probably blew Floyd off at the Gila, in his typical fashion
when he no longer has any need for anybody (at least according to the press).

Landis thought, "I will fix him!"

The drama has just begun.

I just read that Armstrong crashed out of the ToC. No way to be tested if you crash. His head was not in the game. I think there is something to this.

Sad.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:07 PM   #12
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My take on the scenario:

I bet this is why it unfolded:
at the recent Tour de Gila, in which both Landis and Armstrong raced, Landis
probably reminded Lance that he took the bullet for the team by not ratting
anybody out. How so? French authorities told Floyd that they would brush his
incident under rug and he could keep his yellow jersey, if he gave them a "Fish
bigger than him". That would be Lance, whom the French love to hate. Floyd did
not do this. Lance probably blew Floyd off at the Gila, in his typical fashion
when he no longer has any need for anybody (at least according to the press).

Landis thought, "I will fix him!"

The drama has just begun.

I just read that Armstrong crashed out of the ToC. No way to be tested if you crash. His head was not in the game. I think there is something to this.

Sad.
- I keep meaning to get down and Ride the moto and watch.

This would have been a good year.
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:10 PM   #13
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I was a huge Lance fan!

(until they did up his gifted GTO on Overhauled!)
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:11 PM   #14
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I just read that Armstrong crashed out of the ToC. No way to be tested if you crash. His head was not in the game. I think there is something to this.

Sad.
So you would believe a man who has

a) cheated
b) raised public money to fight the resulting ban when caught
c) lied
d) admitted to cheating and lying?

You also watch Fox news a lot?
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Old 05-20-2010, 01:21 PM   #15
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So you would believe a man who has

a) cheated
b) raised public money to fight the resulting ban when caught
c) lied
d) admitted to cheating and lying?

You also watch Fox news a lot?
Sure. Why not? Andreau denied doping, then came clean. He was on Motorola with Armstrong. Heras denied doping, was caught while racing, raced on Lance's team. We all know about Tyler. Why not Floyd too, who, because of his personal reasons, practiced omerta and did not rat out anybody.
Until he had a reason.

Amidst the lies there are grains of truth. This might be one. (ps, I don't watch Fox, and have been a supporter of Lance all the years, but, whatever).
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