Flandis - Page 2

Norhasken · 05-20-2010, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powershouse

Apparently he was involved in a crash early in the race, got back on the bike for a while but was then taken away for xrays.

Timing sure is inauspicious.

Earlier he addressed the Landis pot-stirring:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/arms...is-allegations

Did he hurt his neck?

monkeyfez · 05-20-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Moving Pictures

So you would believe a man who has

a) cheated
b) raised public money to fight the resulting ban when caught
c) lied
d) admitted to cheating and lying?

You also watch Fox news a lot?

Fuck Landis.

If it's true Fuck Lance.

THis has royally screwed US pro cycling.

Dopers suck.

dragoon · 05-20-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterMo

Time to get real about Lance.

Let's have some proof first.

I heard you were gay

fullmonte · 05-20-2010, 07:30 PM

Johan Bruynell said of Landis, “He needs to seek professional help, and I’m not talking about lawyers.”

Honestly, I think the lot of them are dopers. They have to be in order to ride like that, especially at the end of a 100+ mile day. Those of us who have pedaled up some category 2 climbs with excruciating leg cramps know better.

Signal · 05-20-2010, 07:47 PM

hard to decide which side to believe.

There is a very long list of former Armstrong team members that have tested positive, or admitted to doping at some level. Several have either direectly or indirectly implicated Armstrong.

Landis
Andreu
Hamilton, just to name the americans.......

that said, I think it's just an indication of the cycling climate in the late 90's, early '00s.....Look at the french/belgian/etc....

cogitate · 05-20-2010, 08:11 PM

Lance got some stitches under his eye, no broken bones which is good.

The coverage over on Velonews or Cyclingnews has been great. Mostly just reporting the news. A few of the comments make you think wtf?

rajflyboy · 05-20-2010, 08:16 PM

As ESPN's Colin Cowherd said today.

Doping in cycling isn't news and cycling is full of Geeks who shave their backs...

Signal · 05-20-2010, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rajflyboy

As ESPN's Colin Cowherd said today.

Doping in cycling isn't news and cycling is full of Geeks who shave their backs...

ESPN's cycling knowledge couldn't fill a thimble....

Imagine if football or baseball drug tested as often as pro cycling

Jurgen · 05-20-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Signal

ESPN's cycling knowledge couldn't fill a thimble....

Imagine if football or baseball drug tested as often as pro cycling

Ignore Raj... he is a yapping terrier... drops in yaps and runs bravely away.

Jurgen

Bert · 05-20-2010, 09:22 PM

I'll confess to gullibility, Landis had me fooled for a long time. I'm reluctant to believe much of he has to say now.

Downer · 05-20-2010, 10:42 PM

I can't believe they all started after they left Lance's team. I have always wondered why Lance who is so aggressive with sport and business didn't take legal action against all these riders and authors. I would like to see him testify under oath. Until then I think the whole sport is involved.

On the other hand I don't really care and still enjoy watching it. I am going again this year to see the stage ending in Spa, Belgium.

I could do without the denial that their are drugs in professional sports.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Signal

hard to decide which side to believe.

There is a very long list of former Armstrong team members that have tested positive, or admitted to doping at some level. Several have either direectly or indirectly implicated Armstrong.

Landis
Andreu
Hamilton, just to name the americans.......

that said, I think it's just an indication of the cycling climate in the late 90's, early '00s.....Look at the french/belgian/etc....

yeroc40 · 05-21-2010, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bert

I'll confess to gullibility, Landis had me fooled for a long time. I'm reluctant to believe much of he has to say now.

+1 I really liked the narrative of innocence he had created. I'm not buying his next story.

Bert · 05-21-2010, 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeroc40

+1 I really liked the narrative of innocence he had created. I'm not buying his next story.

He lost me when he threatened to "out" Greg Lemond (who was sexually abused as a kid and at some point told Landis) if he testified against him at his arbitration hearing. He assumed Lemond was ashamed and would fold, but Lemond ended up appearing in person and testified both to the Landis' drug use and to Landis' threat. Story here.

Party over.

cogitate · 05-21-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bert

He lost me when he threatened to "out" Greg Lemond (who was sexually abused as a kid and at some point told Landis) if he testified against him at his arbitration hearing. He assumed Lemond was ashamed and would fold, but Lemond ended up appearing in person and testified both to the Landis' drug use and to Landis' threat. Story here.

Party over.

Over and over, Landis is showing a lack of character. Sad. When we were young our folks encouraged us to get into sports to learn how to work hard, endure, win, and lose, all to build character above all. Floyd missed the memo.

Actually, the whole thing devolved for me a few years ago. My kids soccer team sucked big time, and the coach had an awards ceremony for the players giving them trophies for the stupidest reasons. Just to give them something to make them feel like "winners". I said, hey, they should learn to lose, it is a good thing.

rajflyboy · 05-21-2010, 02:31 PM

I'm still here

I can't believe how naive some of you are if you actually think that Lance has not done some blood doping in the past.. I think there is better than a 50 percent chance that he HAS done it.

I mean look at the guys personal life. He is not a saint by any means.

Floyd is right just as Jose Conseco was right!

and long live the true king of American Bicycling "Greg Lemond"! The greatest American cyclist in history.

<<<<< and one more thing. I can't wait to see Contador put a butt wooping on Lance this year at the TDF !!!

05-20-2010, 07:30 PM	#19
fullmonte Reformed Kneedragger Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Chattanooga, Tennessee Oddometer: 4,378	Johan Bruynell said of Landis, “He needs to seek professional help, and I’m not talking about lawyers.” Honestly, I think the lot of them are dopers. They have to be in order to ride like that, especially at the end of a 100+ mile day. Those of us who have pedaled up some category 2 climbs with excruciating leg cramps know better. __________________ "If you are looking for the typical ride to a restaurant, eat tacos, hold the middle finger over the food, stop and take a picture of a gravel road type ride, you probably won't be interested." - dlrides "A guy I know was the lead researcher for the University of Utah federally funded study of cellphone and texting use while driving. He found that your twice as dangerous as a drunk while using your cell phone and I think it was up to six times worse if the driver was texting."-dakardad

05-20-2010, 08:11 PM	#21
cogitate bench adventurer Joined: Nov 2007 Location: North of the Border, CA Oddometer: 3,503	Lance got some stitches under his eye, no broken bones which is good. The coverage over on Velonews or Cyclingnews has been great. Mostly just reporting the news. A few of the comments make you think wtf? __________________ 91 Hawk GT

05-20-2010, 09:22 PM	#25
Bert Fair / Balanced Joined: Jun 2002 Oddometer: 53,457	I'll confess to gullibility, Landis had me fooled for a long time. I'm reluctant to believe much of he has to say now. Bert screwed with this post 05-20-2010 at 09:36 PM

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05-20-2010, 07:47 PM	#20
Signal Cynical Idealist Joined: Aug 2007 Location: Utah Oddometer: 7,762	hard to decide which side to believe. There is a very long list of former Armstrong team members that have tested positive, or admitted to doping at some level. Several have either direectly or indirectly implicated Armstrong. Landis Andreu Hamilton, just to name the americans....... that said, I think it's just an indication of the cycling climate in the late 90's, early '00s.....Look at the french/belgian/etc....

05-20-2010, 08:16 PM	#22
rajflyboy Banned Joined: Apr 2006 Oddometer: 2,043	As ESPN's Colin Cowherd said today. Doping in cycling isn't news and cycling is full of Geeks who shave their backs...

05-21-2010, 02:31 PM	#30
rajflyboy Banned Joined: Apr 2006 Oddometer: 2,043	I'm still here I can't believe how naive some of you are if you actually think that Lance has not done some blood doping in the past.. I think there is better than a 50 percent chance that he HAS done it. I mean look at the guys personal life. He is not a saint by any means. Floyd is right just as Jose Conseco was right! and long live the true king of American Bicycling "Greg Lemond"! The greatest American cyclist in history. <<<<< and one more thing. I can't wait to see Contador put a butt wooping on Lance this year at the TDF !!!