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Old 02-05-2013, 09:06 PM   #2896
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One of the reasons manufacturers have been reluctant to sell bikes with ABS in the U.S. is our litigiousness, and idiotic liability laws. The concern has been that if they mass-market bikes with ABS, sooner or later some idiot is going to crash, and sue the bike maker because the ABS didn't prevent the crash.

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While that may be a small reason I don't think it registers in company boardrooms. After all there is a long history of ABS applications in cars and it presumably has a well fortified litigious protection history.

The main reason more bikes don't have ABS is frankly most riders in the US don't want it (or don't want to pay for it). It's an extremely price sensitive market, and just a glance at the used market for motorcycles with ABS versus without for bikes offered with both will tell you the story.

The cynical side of me would also add that in order to have the presence of mind to actually seek out a bike with ABS in the first place requires a sensibility among the motorcycle buying demographic that I believe just doesn't exist in this country obsessed with sport bikes and harleys.
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Old 02-05-2013, 11:48 PM   #2897
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Okay, let's step over the dead horse and get back to bikes we want. Methinks discussion of ABS, liability, helmets, oil, and the like can be diverted to other forums/threads.

I dig the GSR-750.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:34 AM   #2898
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While that may be a small reason I don't think it registers in company boardrooms. After all there is a long history of ABS applications in cars and it presumably has a well fortified litigious protection history.

The main reason more bikes don't have ABS is frankly most riders in the US don't want it (or don't want to pay for it). It's an extremely price sensitive market, and just a glance at the used market for motorcycles with ABS versus without for bikes offered with both will tell you the story.

The cynical side of me would also add that in order to have the presence of mind to actually seek out a bike with ABS in the first place requires a sensibility among the motorcycle buying demographic that I believe just doesn't exist in this country obsessed with sport bikes and harleys.
+1 too.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:36 AM   #2899
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:10 AM   #2900
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About ABS, in Europe its soon not possible to buy a motorbike without ABS, and i think thats just posetiv.

This is the bike that i want today,tomorrow and the day after, comes with ABS as standard
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:50 PM   #2901
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ABS is OK, as long as you can turn it OFF!

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Old 02-06-2013, 09:24 PM   #2902
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Old 02-07-2013, 07:58 AM   #2903
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No ABS. Or EFI. Or any of that other computer stuff.

Yeah I want this today.

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:01 AM   #2904
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No ABS. Or EFI. Or any of that other computer stuff.

Yeah I want this today.




Any of the early 750s, for me.
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Old 02-07-2013, 08:11 AM   #2905
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Any of the early 750s, for me.

They are all awesome bikes. But I'm partial to the early GSXR's over the others. The one that started it all.

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:14 AM   #2906
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Cortez!!!! Man, are you not feeling well???
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:23 PM   #2907
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ABS is OK, as long as you can turn it OFF!

Would abs stop you from spinning up the rear?
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Old 02-07-2013, 03:18 PM   #2908
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Would abs stop you from spinning up the rear?
I dont think that back wheel is spinning, its locked which ABS is aimed at stopping
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:37 PM   #2909
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I dont think that back wheel is spinning, its locked which ABS is aimed at stopping
I doubt it's locked... that would be bad in a race condition.

He's likely allowing the rear wheel to spin at about half the rate of the front... makes for a nice controllable drift.

Which also can NOT be done with ABS.
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Old 02-07-2013, 06:14 PM   #2910
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No ABS. Or EFI. Or any of that other computer stuff.

Yeah I want this today.

You can be Cool as Ice too.

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