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Old 05-09-2013, 08:22 PM   #3466
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I still don't love the funky looking headlights, but otherwise it is a badass bike.
Oh, yeah! Definitely on my short list.
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Old 05-09-2013, 08:48 PM   #3467
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Now, with that said, I'll admit that the brakes are one thing that I am disappointed in about H-D. Personally, in this day and age, I see no excuse for the brakes that come stock on the majority of their bikes. And, I'll admit that the front brake was one of the first things I upgraded on my bike. A single disc with a single two pot caliper on a 575# motorcycle? Come on guys! Drag yourself into the 21st century!, or even the later quarter of the 20th century.



You said it. My Nightrod Special has Brembo brakes and I went in two years ago to try a Fat Bob. Man was I shocked at just how bad that thing braked. Totally truned me off to the bike. If Harley can put Brembo on the Vrod line and touring line, it's almost criminal to put such crappy brakes on the rest of the line. I don't know if that's changed in the past few years or not as lately I'm lusting after Triumphs and haven't paid much attention to any changes at HD.
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Old 05-09-2013, 09:11 PM   #3468
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My latest obsession. Anything nicknamed the "Widowmaker" piques my interest...


I like this one better...

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Old 05-10-2013, 04:30 AM   #3469
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You said it. My Nightrod Special has Brembo brakes and I went in two years ago to try a Fat Bob. Man was I shocked at just how bad that thing braked. Totally truned me off to the bike. If Harley can put Brembo on the Vrod line and touring line, it's almost criminal to put such crappy brakes on the rest of the line. I don't know if that's changed in the past few years or not as lately I'm lusting after Triumphs and haven't paid much attention to any changes at HD.

Yeah, and the thing is, decent brakes aren't THAT hard to do. I put an off the shelf H-D item on my 48 and greatly improved its braking performance. The XR1200's Nissin 4 piston caliper was a direct bolt on and cost me around $150 retail, shipped. To Harley the price difference between it and their standard 2 piston caliper probably isn't much at all, but completely changes the way the bike brakes. I mean, they don't have to go all out with twin discs and top shelf components to make a huge improvement, but to me, "decent" brakes should be mandatory equipment on any bike built in these modern time. There's just no excuse for anything less.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:44 AM   #3470
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Yeah, and the thing is, decent brakes aren't THAT hard to do. I put an off the shelf H-D item on my 48 and greatly improved its braking performance. The XR1200's Nissin 4 piston caliper was a direct bolt on and cost me around $150 retail, shipped. To Harley the price difference between it and their standard 2 piston caliper probably isn't much at all, but completely changes the way the bike brakes. I mean, they don't have to go all out with twin discs and top shelf components to make a huge improvement, but to me, "decent" brakes should be mandatory equipment on any bike built in these modern time. There's just no excuse for anything less.
..and then you ask a shop mechanic about people's braking habits and hear
that some never touch the front and use just the rear.. especially cruiser
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:10 AM   #3471
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..and then you ask a shop mechanic about people's braking habits and hear
that some never touch the front and use just the rear.. especially cruiser
riders.
Well, unfortunately you can't design out stupidity, but for those of us that know where the real braking power comes from, it's relatively easy to design it in.

I don't like to overgeneralize, pigeonhole, or slam any subset of riders, but it does seem that cruisers tend to attract the less knowledgeable, and less safety conscious, group of riders for some reason. Maybe it isn't a manufacturer's responsibility to make a rider safe, but it should be somewhat their responsibility to give those that choose to be, the tools with which to do so.


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Old 05-10-2013, 05:13 AM   #3472
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Yep.

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Old 05-12-2013, 08:07 PM   #3473
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:12 PM   #3474
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$6800 trike...





Sorry, but while the may be a cool "car", I don't really see that in the same vain as a motorcycle...
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Sorry, but while the may be a cool "car", I don't really see that in the same vain as a motorcycle...
Legally it is a motorcycle... in this country anyway.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:28 PM   #3476
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Legally it is a motorcycle... in this country anyway.

Yeah, by legal definition, having less than 4 wheels, it is a M/C here too I think. That may exempt it from certain regulatory requirements such as safety standards, emissions differences, and so forth, but to me if it is fully enclosed, doesn't lean, and/or has more than 2 wheels, it isn't a true motorcycle... Just offers none of the things that I associate with the feeling of motorcycling, IMO...

Sorry, all you Can-Am and other trike lovers.

To me, that thing is just a tandem seat car that just happens to have one wheel missing.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:06 PM   #3477
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It doesn't require a motorcycle license in California, but I believe it would in Utah. I think it's nice to see weather protected, stable in the snow, new & reliable transportation with that low of a price. Sorry, but the price of new cars has gotten ridiculous.
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:17 PM   #3478
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It doesn't require a motorcycle license in California, but I believe it would in Utah. I think it's nice to see weather protected, stable in the snow, new & reliable transportation with that low of a price. Sorry, but the price of new cars has gotten ridiculous.
Yeah, it could be an interesting alternative form of transportation. Still don't really see it as a motorcycle in any real sense though...


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