Sailing Megathread!!!

[nomiles]

Originally Posted by g®eg

more of Greg's retirement fund....
6.5 Polykote

That was cool! (no pun) I'm a lifelong sailor but as California boy I've never even seen an iceboat. I used to read about them in the 'back east' magazines years ago and have always been fascinated by them. Thanks for posting that.

** Ritalin Boy's Swan 90 I understand.

[Mr. J]

http://nomadicista.org/viewforum.php...20e987dfa8b181


motorhome therapy meets the high seas

[MrBob]

Originally Posted by nomiles

That was cool! (no pun) I'm a lifelong sailor but as California boy I've never even seen an iceboat. I used to read about them in the 'back east' magazines years ago and have always been fascinated by them. Thanks for posting that.

** Ritalin Boy's Swan 90 I understand.

They race on White Bear Lake near St. Paul, Minnesota. It's thrilling to watch them flying along with very little noise and they're amazingly fast.

[Ritalin Boy]

Here ya go, check this out.

[Hay Ewe]

Originally Posted by Ritalin Boy

Here ya go, check this out.

I think that is Pete Goss boat 'Aqua Corum' the one he did the Vendee in, around year 2000?

[Ritalin Boy]

Originally Posted by Hay Ewe

I think that is Pete Goss boat 'Aqua Corum' the one he did the Vendee in, around year 2000?

I don't think that's a 12 year old boat.

[68deluxe]

Originally Posted by g®eg

just a tick bigger...

http://www.nefertiti.org.uk/specs.html

Swans.

[Ritalin Boy]

Originally Posted by 68deluxe

Swans.

Oh Yeah...

[g®eg]

Originally Posted by Ritalin Boy

Oh Yeah...

pfft. you'll have the swan guys showing up next, "bluewater" Barker
and Keith Yeoman (if they still work for swan) and whats-his name? Daily? from long Island.

yeah.. I'm jealous.

[Ritalin Boy]

Originally Posted by g®eg

pfft. you'll have the swan guys showing up next, "bluewater" Barker
and Keith Yeoman (if they still work for swan) and whats-his name? Daily? from long Island.

yeah.. I'm jealous.

Barker is a complete douche. Yeoman is ok and Daley....

[Hay Ewe]

Originally Posted by Ritalin Boy

I don't think that's a 12 year old boat.

Just did some checking. Aqua Corum was built for Pete Goss to compete in the 1996 / 1997 Vendee Globe. It did have a swinging keel.
The Hugo Boss does look similar but my searches didn't find that Aqua Corum was re-named to Hugo Boss.
I do have some books about Pete Goss and his ventures, but these are packed away at the moment.
I also worked for him where he was my manager for while.

looks like I was wrong, it's not Aqua Corum re-branded but 50' yachts with swing keels were around in the 1990's

here is the link I used to check :-
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5369

Hay Ewe

[Ritalin Boy]

Originally Posted by Hay Ewe

Just did some checking. Aqua Corum was built for Pete Goss to compete in the 1996 / 1997 Vendee Globe. It did have a swinging keel.
The Hugo Boss does look similar but my searches didn't find that Aqua Corum was re-named to Hugo Boss.
I do have some books about Pete Goss and his ventures, but these are packed away at the moment.
I also worked for him where he was my manager for while.

looks like I was wrong, it's not Aqua Corum re-branded but 50' yachts with swing keels were around in the 1990's

here is the link I used to check :-
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5369

Hay Ewe

Yes they were but there is much about the boat that places it closer to the last two or three years.

[nomiles]

Originally Posted by Ritalin Boy

I don't think that's a 12 year old boat.

2010



In 2010 Alex purchased a new boat, which had already competed in and finished The Vendee Globe. Built to an even more powerful specification, this new IMOCA 60 was launched in May 2010 after undergoing a comprehensive 4 month refit. The new HUGO BOSS racing yacht, designed by Juan Kouyoumdjian, is significantly more powerful than any other vessels in her class. She has been tailored specifically to meet the needs of her skipper Alex Thomson and built to sail solo around the world. The look and colouring of the yacht have changed from the former HUGO BOSS with the port side now white and the starboard side black.

The boat has been redesigned and optimized for sailing for one man, and will allow Alex to compete at the very front of his class in the coming years.
Specifications
Weight 10.5 tonnes
Length of boat 18.28m
Width of boat 6.5m
Height of mast (air draught) 31.65m
Depth of keel under boat 4.5m
Weight of keel 4.5 tonnes

Source: http://www.alexthomsonracing.com/about/

[spidennis]

So I'm designing my expedition adventure racing boat,
it's a folding biplane rigged beach cat, I call her "Bad Kitty".

I've been asking for ideas in the boating world,
but I think I need a fresh set of eyes and minds .....
and I can think of no better set of guys to offer up some damn interesting ideas.

I want to test this boat out in the 300 mile Everglades Challenge,
then use and abuse it in the 1200 mile Ultimate Florida Challenge.

below are some videos of what I got going on:









My design considerations for the boat are:
1) unstayed masts , quickly removable , Hobie TI sails?
2) biplane rig
3) reef ready , roller furling?
4) hulls - typical U shaped hulls for speed (shallow draft), pull onto beach,
5) hulls - hatches for storage
6) hulls - floatation, unsinkable
7) hulls - folded for 40 mile portage, tight river sections, going thru low small bridges
8) hulls - lee board/center board, or dagger board?
9) hulls - rudders, must kick up
10) hulls - front net/tramp
11) boat must be portaged 40 miles!
12) live aboard for 15/30 days, eat/sleep on board
13) aux manual propulsion, oars / peddle drive prop
14) aux sail plan : kiteboarder kite using front tramp to launch and retrieve
15) carry all gear and supplies for 15/30 days
16) easy to build?
17) wheels for portage? external cart or built in wheels?

The model show basic ideas, now I need to start with specific details .

[Smithy]

I think those side-by-side booms are going to give you nothing but trouble. Keeping the rigging untangled and avoiding masking one with the other in wind, are two good reasons you never see that design. If it were me, I'd go with a lugger, and if you're ambitious and want to make it a lugger schooner, you could still have two masts, just one fore and one aft, keep them fairly low but long for adequate sail area and steerage - might even eliminate rudders if the hulls track straight.

Get a copy of "Canoe Rig" and look at the plethora of small-sail rigging ideas in a light boat, and pay special attention to the south Pacific outrigger designs... lotta compatibility with what you're looking at.

I really like the swing-rig that lets you go from cat to funky canoe, especially for portage, but it's going to need some strong locking gear, probably in the form of cable stays that snap into place holding it in one configuration or another.