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Old 06-21-2010, 04:20 PM   #16
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:00 PM   #17
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If it is the case as Anton says above, and the Euro switch does not work on R100GS's, let me know if you want to sell it as it is correct for the R80G/S's for certain.
I'm talking about the euro handlebar switch. You're saying that works on G/Ses for certain?
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:15 PM   #18
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I'm talking about the euro handlebar switch. You're saying that works on G/Ses for certain?
That is certainly doesn't (I was confused).... I am actually looking for the Euro iginition switch... from what i hear the wire swap method is not that great becuase you can take the key out with it in the first position... if that's true I would be worried about it popping out when riding rough roads.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:15 PM   #19
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So it look like it's actually very simple. For G/S and GS:
  • old switchgear - use the 5-position ignition switch or swap gray/green
  • new switchgear - use the handlebar 'euro switch'

Is there more to it than that?
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:27 PM   #20
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Slightly off topic

Not helping this particular problem, but I did get help here in making my US-spec. '81 G/S able to run without the headlight. Jumpering Grey #58 (parking) to Green #15 (ignition). No new switch needed and it is fairly simple to switch the headlight on by turning the switch one more position from parking to ignition. Can be accomplished whilst going down the road. Thanks for listening, resume...
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:31 PM   #21
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Yup; I mentioned that the first time but just edited the last post for that. Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2010, 05:58 AM   #22
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Just what I needed!

YES!

Next time I can work on the bike (and ride it...so sad) I'll be able to have the switch and proper bezel too!

First though, I have to finish the rebuild of my 1949 Ford 8N tractor's steering box. The parts should be waiting for me when I get home from work today.

PS, um, what are "side lights"?
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Old 06-22-2010, 07:43 AM   #23
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The 5-position switch is available in the US. The bezel can be ordered. Motobins is cheaper, though.

The bezel shows up in the ST fiche but not the G/S or GS fiche. The ST has a different dash; will that bezel work with the G/S and GS? Funny, I should remember this. I rode a euro GS for a few weeks last summer. Maybe I have a pic of it somewhere showing if it has a bezel or not.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:52 AM   #24
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The 5-position switch is available in the US. The bezel can be ordered. Motobins is cheaper, though.

The bezel shows up in the ST fiche but not the G/S or GS fiche. The ST has a different dash; will that bezel work with the G/S and GS? Funny, I should remember this. I rode a euro GS for a few weeks last summer. Maybe I have a pic of it somewhere showing if it has a bezel or not.
Last year when I bought the 5 position switch, I ordered it at my local BMW dealer (BMW of Detroit). It would be nice to know if the bezel will fit my 88 GS, but just looking at the photo on Motobins, I "think" it will.

What are "side lights"???
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:02 AM   #25
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Seems to me the bezel would only work on switches that are attached from the back side. The G/S and GS have the lock ring on the front. But that's just a hypothesis.
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Old 06-22-2010, 09:12 AM   #26
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You've got 5 positions on the European ignition switch and it's a real PITA to switch postions while in motion. Much easier to just get the European handle bar switch.
There is, BTW, NO SUCH THING as a "euro" handlebar switch for the Airhead GS.

Folks instead are adapting, for example, RT parts.

The Euro GS switches the lighting via the 5-position ignition switch.
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Old 06-22-2010, 02:57 PM   #27
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There is, BTW, NO SUCH THING as a "euro" handlebar switch for the Airhead GS.

Folks instead are adapting, for example, RT parts.

The Euro GS switches the lighting via the 5-position ignition switch.
Not after 1991. It's on the handle bars. It's the difference between the Paralever models that causing the confusion


Here's my 1993 UK spec Paralever - Off/Side/Main all on the right hand switchgear with a 3 position ignition switch,



Listed here as well - Motorworks

Up to 1990 it's all done on the ignition switch

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Old 06-22-2010, 03:16 PM   #28
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The 5-position switch is available in the US. The bezel can be ordered. Motobins is cheaper, though.

The bezel shows up in the ST fiche but not the G/S or GS fiche. The ST has a different dash; will that bezel work with the G/S and GS? Funny, I should remember this. I rode a euro GS for a few weeks last summer. Maybe I have a pic of it somewhere showing if it has a bezel or not.


Costs around $20

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Side lights are the position that brings all the lights on with the exception of the main headlight. Not sure what you guys call that position. It's position 4 on the bezel above

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Old 06-22-2010, 03:29 PM   #29
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Back to the bezel - it's used on the R80ST, 1990 R100PD and some R65s. Looking at the pic, it might actually work on the G/S and early GS. The ID of the bezel looks like about 3cm, which is what the lock ring OD is, and the OD of the bezel is about 4.5cm which would almost but not quite overhang the instrument pod.

So, someone with that bezel (could be a US-spec one) should try it on a G/S or early GS. I don't have a bike with that bezel available right now or I'd do it myself.
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Old 06-22-2010, 03:32 PM   #30
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$20!! Damn, that's much cheaper than I'd have guessed. Looks like a no-brainer. Still wonder if the bezel would work tho'...
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