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Old 07-04-2010, 02:32 PM   #16
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looks like the fuel would flow fine w/ tank titlted up and thus making it easy job to sync the injector bodies when need be.
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:37 PM   #17
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Subscribed! Thanks for leading the way. I was really anxious to see how the fuel tank swiveled and what's underneath it. Thanks for documenting it. Will you be adding heated grips? I know you're in Oz and all, just curious to see where the adjustment knob mounts.

I'd be curious to see if you add bar back risers, and if there's enough slack in the wires, hoses and cables to permit this. Also, the carbon exhaust sounds , but is the plastic exhaust cover still necessary to protect the pillion's leg from the heat?

C'mon Yamaha Canada, bring on the S10 here! I'll be first in line!
This is where Yamaha want it.......YUK




And this is where Ray wants it.....



And bar risers fit fine, mine are about 25mm (not shown here).

Have a flick through http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=14206
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:48 PM   #18
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Thanks Ray.. Better there or where they have it on the FJR? I guess integrating a heated grips switch into the switchgear is too complicated.
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:53 PM   #19
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Thanks Ray.. Better there than where they have it on the FJR. I guess integrating a heated grips switch into the switchgear is too complicated.
I hate to say it but in some respects my old 09 GSA was better.....
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Old 07-04-2010, 02:59 PM   #20
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I hate to say it but in some respects my old 09 GSA was better.....
You can say it, we can cope. this is not a BMW thread you know

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Old 07-04-2010, 03:02 PM   #21
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Keep the faith mate... They MUST bring them into the States...
I think they will achieve massive sales around the world and they will be forced to bring them in..

Bloody travesty if they dont - this is a farken great machine, and i've only ridden mine a couple of times..

In the mean time, I'll try and think about you each time I ride

Greg.
+1 all looks good with a Great Report, at this very early stage i have decided this is such a fantastic bike it is definately a keeper and shall never leave my ownership, this morning i did the work commute down the freeways but you just have to be so careful as a slight twist of the wrist and the speedo is up to 150k without realising. Fuel economy is now down to 5l per 100 so gradually getting even better. extremely comfortable and a well thought out motorcycle that does not show its weight at all while ridden.

Well done Yamaha.

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Old 07-04-2010, 03:03 PM   #22
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I hate to say it but in some respects my old 09 GSA was better.....
To my mind, these are the items where 12GS/A surpasses the SuperTen. Certainly none of these are deal breakers.

Integrated heated grips switch
Integrated computer info switch
Steel braided brake lines
Both seats are removable by turning a key
Self canceling turn signals

Patiently waiting to hear Yamaha Canada's September announcement, yay or nay?

How does the engine feel compared to the feel of the boxer?
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Old 07-04-2010, 03:16 PM   #23
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To my mind, these are the items where 12GS/A surpasses the SuperTen. Certainly none of these are deal breakers.

Integrated heated grips switch
Integrated computer info switch
Steel braided brake lines
Both seats are removable by turning a key
Self canceling turn signals

Patiently waiting to hear Yamaha Canada's September announcement, yay or nay?

How does the engine feel compared to the feel of the boxer?
In Aus, at present, there is a.., lets be generous, $8K price difference between the two.

The YAMAHA is a great machine, it will hopefully keep the segment honest,

You now have a good choice of ADV tourers available and that is good.

Lets see how the others respond.
In Aus at least. We tend to buy them in resonable numbers.

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Old 07-04-2010, 04:12 PM   #24
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You now have a good choice of ADV tourers available and that is good.
I don't want a boxer GS, so this is my only choice, but only if it comes here.

It looks well designed and built.
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Old 07-04-2010, 05:51 PM   #25
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Cry No NA distributer for Australia's homegrown UNI FILTER...

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It's a technical neccesity with the fine sanddust of australia, a paper filter would clog up verry fast, and would let more micronsised particles truogh.
A oiled foam filter works by not really filtering the air, but by letting the air change direction in sharp corners, so the sand particles (and other junk) effectivily are flying out of the corners in the filter and get cought on the sticky surface, so you get cleaner and in time more air into your engine.

Actually a dutch invention, made to a huge succes in the 70's by Twin-Air in the cross-scene, and basing on the ageold centifugal filter like you find in the Honda 350 of the 70's for the oil, it costs a little more time then just putting in a new paperfilter, but longivity wise its better, but only if cleaned and oiled *regularly* according to usage, if your doing extensive sandblasting every day with the bike check it every week, if your a road rider every other small maintenance.
I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion, on Yamaha Australia's fitment of what appears to be, AUZ manufactured UNI FILTER foam air filters.

When I was researching what brand of aftermarket foam air filter, to retrofit my DR650's standard issue unit, I happened across Australia's homegrown filter company, uniflow.com.au (Not at all affiliated with the similar named, USA California based Uni Filter !)
Apparently Australia's landmass is extremely old and reknowned for the destructively and minutely fine "sand dust" that you refer to...

I ended up settling for a Twin Air oem fitment on the DR, only because this extremely well regarded Auz. product, is currently not distributed in NA. Nice to see Yamaha's Australian distributer, being so on the ball with this sensible inhouse and locally manufactured, air filter upgrade ! Their efforts will pay off in satisfied customers and reduced potential warranty issues...

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Old 07-04-2010, 05:57 PM   #26
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Will you be adding heated grips? I know you're in Oz and all, just curious to see where the adjustment knob mounts.

I'd be curious to see if you add bar back risers, and if there's enough slack in the wires, hoses and cables to permit this. Also, the carbon exhaust sounds , but is the plastic exhaust cover still necessary to protect the pillion's leg from the heat?

C'mon Yamaha Canada, bring on the S10 here! I'll be first in line!
Yep, I have the heated grips on order but they are not due in Australian stock until Sept apparently. Perfectly timed for our cool Australian summer season.

Yamaha can stick that suggested heater control fitting position.
I was thinking about a similar location to the FJR.. Same but opposite to the auxiliary plug, as suggested by Gadget Boy.

I actually find the handlebars slightly too high and rearward. Maybe this is because my other bike (Ducati SC1000S) has you laying on the tank with the clip-ons down in line with the front axle (well, nearly ), but I have been thinking that I may make a new top triple clamp with for and aft adjustable bar location with different height riser blocks available.
I had a look at the different bent bars at the bike shop but could not spot anything with a desirable bend back.. I will keep thinking about that one for a while.

I plan on very quickly manufacturing cover/guard/skuff plates for the various frame and switch connections for this bike. I was thinking that it would be very easy to make a new cover for the exhaust and the carbon muffler while making it look very slim and less obtrusive.

More later.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:43 PM   #27
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How does the engine feel compared to the feel of the boxer?
IMHO the S10 engine is a bit noisier but it pulls a lot earlier than the GSA. It is a bit early for me to form a proper opinion, however, I do not miss the bike twisting thing when opening the throttle, or the gearbox that realy does feel like a tractor one (we have a tractor on our farm so I can compare).

The biggest plus of this bike is how easy it is to ride. Most of my riding is 2 up and it is sheer bliss.

I envisage that when this bike is taken to places where the going gets tough, riders will fall off a lot less (than the GSA) and the whole experience will be more pleasant.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:22 PM   #28
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Anyway, this is hijacking Doug's thread a bit, more appropriate in the general XTZ thread?

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Doug who??? This is Greg's thread...
Bloody hijackers

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Old 07-05-2010, 07:31 PM   #29
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Doug who??? This is Greg's thread...
Bloody hijackers

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I thought the rear tyre Doug a hole, seriously still eagerly awaiting that carbon can

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Hijack over, moved posts to the big S10 thread. Returning thread to Wasp's modifications

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