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Old 11-23-2012, 07:27 AM   #15076
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I think he came back
You know him very well I believe
I assumed he was back in one form or another, perhaps not so incendiary in this incarnation.
Frankly, i got a kick out of some of his posts but the beemer guys didn't.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:42 AM   #15077
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Ducnut,

I believe the Tiger 800's max output is 645w and the 1050 is about 480w.
According to my 1050's service manual. It shows alternator output at 34amps which is 408watts.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:45 AM   #15078
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I was always put of by how big and bulky it is ...
I thought so too at first. However, take a look:

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....postcount=1266
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:32 AM   #15079
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Ducnut,

I believe the Tiger 800's max output is 645w and the 1050 is about 480w.

Someone had estimated the bikes use about 300w just going down the road.

Gerbing Wattage;
Pants=44w
Jacket=77w
Gloves or Liners=27w

Doubling these numbers for two fully heated riders would put the wattage needed at about 300w.

This could push the Tiger 1050 charging system beyond it's capacity.

Maybe somebody could check my numbers.
I find no need for heated pants or socks. If I keep my core warm with a heated liner and my hands warm with heated grips (or both heated grips and heated gloves when it's really cold out) I don't need anything more than a pair of long johns under my jeans and Darien over pants.

I typically run heated gear at about 50% duty cycle, perhaps up to 75% duty cycle if it's really cold out. If the combination of heated jacket, heated gloves, and heated grips draws approximately 150 watts, at 50% duty cycle it's really only about 75 watts of constant consumption or 110 watts at 75% duty cycle. Considering all of that I have no fears about running two sets of heated stuff on a T800 and could probably even get away with it with the 1050's charging capacity, though it would be close.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:13 PM   #15080
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Oh, and may I also ask how you like the Montana? I still have the GPSMap 60CSx, but the screen is really small and some of the navigation features are really, really sow. How's the Montana? I was always put of by how big and bulky it is ...
To add a little further to the comparison, here's a shot next to a 2820 that (along with previous iterations) a lot of people used. Granted, if I were on foot, I'd much rather carry the 60CSx, but on a bike, the 60CSx sacrifices a LOT for not much savings in space.





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Old 11-23-2012, 04:34 PM   #15081
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To add a little further to the comparison, here's a shot next to a 2820 that (along with previous iterations) a lot of people used. Granted, if I were on foot, I'd much rather carry the 60CSx, but on a bike, the 60CSx sacrifices a LOT for not much savings in space.
Interesting comparison, thanks for that.

We use the 60CSx for hiking and on the bike. It's great as a dual purpose GPS tracker, it's not so great as a navigation device and I rarely ever use it as one.

Was thinking of getting the Montana or one of the new Zumo 350 series.
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Old 11-23-2012, 05:48 PM   #15082
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Interesting comparison, thanks for that.

We use the 60CSx for hiking and on the bike. It's great as a dual purpose GPS tracker, it's not so great as a navigation device and I rarely ever use it as one.

Was thinking of getting the Montana or one of the new Zumo 350 series.
Don't give up on the 60csx that quickly. My trusted unit got me through places like Mexico City, Guatemala City, Nairobi and several others that are a nightmare to navigate through with little hassle.
I still like some of the features of the Montana though.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:53 PM   #15083
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Fit the accessory power socket under the saddle. Stick a DIN plug on your jacket wiring and stick the controller to the outside of the battery box with Velcro. You'll remember to turn everything off when you get snagged by the wiring when you try to walk away from the bike.
Well it ended up just under the seat. Maybe should of gone with the wireless controller, but only have the fixed. The location is handy enough, but can only see the light when off the bike. I do hope I remember to unplug at the enx of a ride. . .

I can post a pic if anyone wants, though not too exciting, test shows the gear works welll.
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Old 11-24-2012, 09:55 AM   #15084
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controller current consumption...

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Well it ended up just under the seat. Maybe should of gone with the wireless controller, but only have the fixed. The location is handy enough, but can only see the light when off the bike. I do hope I remember to unplug at the enx of a ride. . .
You can leave the controller "on" with the heated gear unplugged and never, ever run your battery down. It would add no more loss to the battery than your standby on-board electronics... maybe a tiny amount more, but my point is you won't kill your battery by doing so. Now, this is assuming that your controller is an electronic model. If you did indeed kill your battery by leaving the controller "on" then it would be in your garage over a period of three or four weeks with no charger connected and no rides taken.

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Old 11-24-2012, 10:30 AM   #15085
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So on my last trip I got the dreaded 'won't idle' condition after riding in some very dusty conditions. I managed with it though but as winter is here, I figure time to do some maintenance and I have a few questions...

1. stock air filter looks toast - that said, can I blow it out and re-use it ? I am going to fit my Uni pre-filter this time round.

2. I have what appears to be a breather pipe left over from somewhere It's near the front on the right as you sit on the bike - it's not one of the 2 that go into the tank at the back - is it a crank breather maybe ?

3. I cleaned the stepper motor etc. - where are folks putting the grease - just under the rubber boot or basically all over the shaft etc. ?

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Old 11-24-2012, 12:43 PM   #15086
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Right on the dash. Use the wireless controller from Warm n Safe. No wires, no fuss. The beauty of this is that it moves from bike to bike by using a simple RAM mount.
+1 on the Warm 'n Safe wireless controller. Put some industrial velcro on the top or side of your brake fluid boxes and you can move the controller from bike to bike using nothing.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:01 PM   #15087
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So on my last trip I got the dreaded 'won't idle'

3. I cleaned the stepper motor etc. - where are folks putting the grease - just under the rubber boot or basically all over the shaft etc. ?

Cheers
You should use some all purpose spray lube that does not attract dust as bad as grease. Lube the stepper arm & the throttle roller. The throttle roller is located where the stepper motor arm is going.




I would replace the air filter.
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Old 11-24-2012, 02:14 PM   #15088
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Finally completed the Tiger...I think.

Just wanted to show the old girl off! Finally think I have all the additions complete.

Happy Trails 9" Teton Cliff cut. 24"rack width, 39" with panniers. Great Kit and service!!!!





Mega tool tube to fill the left side space





Tour tech Radiator guard,OEM engine guards, & SW-Motech crash guard

Kriega fork guards and tourtech fender extender


Also, OEM adjustable windscreen with Laminar Lip, Barkbusters, and K60 Scouts.

OEM pannier kit for sale on flea market if interested. Or PM me.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:42 PM   #15089
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Just wanted to show the old girl off! Finally think I have all the additions complete.
Very nice.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:01 AM   #15090
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So on my last trip I got the dreaded 'won't idle' condition after riding in some very dusty conditions. I managed with it though but as winter is here, I figure time to do some maintenance and I have a few questions...

1. stock air filter looks toast - that said, can I blow it out and re-use it ? I am going to fit my Uni pre-filter this time round.

2. I have what appears to be a breather pipe left over from somewhere It's near the front on the right as you sit on the bike - it's not one of the 2 that go into the tank at the back - is it a crank breather maybe ?

3. I cleaned the stepper motor etc. - where are folks putting the grease - just under the rubber boot or basically all over the shaft etc. ?

Cheers
1. I would do what I've done and fit a DNA or K&N filter because, with the pre-filter you don't need the full filtration of a stock filter. This is mine after 6K behind the pre-filter


The pre-filter does most of the work...


I don't think I'll ever need to get into the airbox ever again.

2. Don't know.

3. Refer to what Rob Dirt wrote.
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