ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Beasts > The British Invasion: Triumph Tigers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-19-2012, 05:31 AM   #15181
2Lucky
n00b
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: Peru
Oddometer: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by blacktiger View Post
Robdirt didn't really, exactly, answer your question........No it's not OK to run a tube type tyre on your roadie rims.....unless you also fit a tube. Conti do make tubeless TKC80 so you need to get one of those. You might have to go with a 110/80x19 http://www.nationalbiketyres.co.uk/m.../prod_809.html instead but don't worry, I read somewhere recently that that size has been passed as OK by Triumph and even approved by the TUV in Germany.
That might be true or might not be true - I am from Germany - and before I began my trip on the Tiger 800 (onroad) I asked at Conti Germany - the tester there told me that they have not tested it - and it may be NOT ok to run the 110/80x19 TKC80 on the front wheel because it is supposed to be touching the fork as it has much profile on it!
He said he could not say for sure as nobody tested it so far (that was somewhere in the middle of the year August or September 2012.

So if anybody checked out if the TKC80 110/80x19 fits - pls let us know.

Cheers,
Uli
2Lucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2012, 05:33 AM   #15182
2Lucky
n00b
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: Peru
Oddometer: 7
Thumb New Triumph dealer - Lima Peru

There is a new Triumph dealer and workshop in Lima, Peru.
Have a look at this thread:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=848522

Cheers,
Uli
2Lucky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2012, 02:42 PM   #15183
markbvt
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Georgia, Vermont (that's one town, not two states)
Oddometer: 2,684
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solace View Post
Hey fellow Tiger riders, I just got a new one lately and put the first 6,500 miles on it. Love the bike. It's time for new tires. I want to run the Continental TKC80's on it. The rear tire says "tubeless" but the front one says "tube type" on it.

Has anyone ran these tires on your Tiger 800 cast wheels without a front tube? Any problems to note or comments to offer? Sorry if this was asked prior but I haven't taken the time to look through 1,000+ pages on this thread.

Since you're talking about cast wheels, you obviously have the regular Tiger 800, not the XC. You want to be running the 110/80-19 front TKC, not the 100/90-19. The 110 is tubeless. And before you ask, yes, it will work fine despite the stock tire being a 100/90-19.

--mark
__________________
'11 Triumph Tiger 800 XC / '03 Honda XR650L / '01 Triumph Bonneville cafe

My ride reports: Missile silos, Labrador, twisties, and more

Bennington Triumph Bash, May 30-June 1, 2014
markbvt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 04:34 AM   #15184
blacktiger
Tigers R great.
 
blacktiger's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: St.Leonards on Sea, England.
Oddometer: 3,702
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Lucky View Post
That might be true or might not be true - I am from Germany - and before I began my trip on the Tiger 800 (onroad) I asked at Conti Germany - the tester there told me that they have not tested it - and it may be NOT ok to run the 110/80x19 TKC80 on the front wheel because it is supposed to be touching the fork as it has much profile on it!
He said he could not say for sure as nobody tested it so far (that was somewhere in the middle of the year August or September 2012.

So if anybody checked out if the TKC80 110/80x19 fits - pls let us know.

Cheers,
Uli
Bloke on this thread http://www.tiger800.co.uk/index.php/....html#msg77890 reckon his dealer had approval from Triumph. Of course he doesn't say which dealer or any further info but, if you're a member on there, you could send him a message and ask.
__________________
2002 black Tiger955i, 72000 miles and counting.
2012 black Tiger800XC, The other British Land Rover. 40000 miles and counting.
2013 black Tiger800XC, The other British Land Rover. 500 miles and counting.
blacktiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 08:32 AM   #15185
browneye
PIN IT & BANG GEARS
 
browneye's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Oddometer: 5,314
TKC on roadie?

First of all, not sure why you're fitting knobbies on the road bike. But let's assume you're spending more than half your time on dirt roads and you feel you need the traction...

If you fit a tube type tire it is highly recommended to also install a tube. No biggie here, just remove the tubeless valve stem and add a tube when you mount it. A tubeless tire has a different bead to match the tubeless style rim, in order to create a good seal. Without that it may not seal correctly and you'll have a slow leakdown. Secondly, the interior wall of a tubeless tire has a different surface layer that is more air tight than a tube type tire. A lot of guys have run a tube type tubeless though, so you may get away with it. It would not be the most ideal setup, but then niether are TKC's on a roadbike in the first place.

Without digging into specific tire models and specs, the two different front tire sizes for 19" are inconsequential, so choose the one that's tubeless if you don't want to run a tube. Whatever the GSA is running that is what you want as well.

Consider a set of Heidenaeu K60's or Mefo equivalent, or Fullbore USA M40/41's, or even a Anakee II. The Dunlop Trailmax looks pretty good too. You'll be a lot happier with performance all around, and you'll have tubeless tires to match your wheels.

Add a compressor pump to your kit so you can air down to 22-25lbs for dirt running. Even the stock Scorpion Trails work REALLY well on dirt if they are aired down. If you get into sand sections or mud, the 19" diameter front will start digging in and that will limit you anyway.

I'm betting you'll hate the road handling, roughness, and noise of a TKC. And they'll probably wear twice as fast as a good radial road tire with aggressive tread. JMHO.
__________________
Chris Brown - "The Browneye"
"Without Motorcycles, People Live Very Boring Lives." - Malcolm Smith
Camp Nelson 2014 RR Laguna Seca 2012 RR Sequoia 3-Day Campout Thanksgiving 2012
browneye is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 02:17 PM   #15186
TekurRides
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: NorCal
Oddometer: 67
Heated Grips?

Are the OEM heated grips any good? I got my bike with the heated grips installed and now I regret wasting money on it. It is useless for all practical reasons, at 50-60F I feel some warmth but not enough to be comfortable. In the 40's they are practically useless. Can't believe Triumph charges so much for a piece of S**t. Did I get a lemon, or is the the heated grip really that bad?

Also, does anyone know how difficult it is to uninstall it?
TekurRides is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 02:26 PM   #15187
arkline
Glorified AV Boy
 
Joined: May 2002
Location: Seattle, WA
Oddometer: 202
At what speeds do you ride with the heated grips? Above 50 mph or so nobody's heated grips make much difference, unless you have hand guards that move the breeze over and under your hands on the bars. If your hands are really cold, I'd recommend heated glove liners and a heated jacket liner. Keep your core warm and the peripherals will stay warmer...especially with heated glove liners.
__________________
"Piss on the fire, call in the dogs, and head it on back to Bowlegs."

Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
arkline is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #15188
rkclm
Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Location: Lost as usual
Oddometer: 31
Quote:
Originally Posted by TekurRides View Post
Are the OEM heated grips any good? I got my bike with the heated grips installed and now I regret wasting money on it. It is useless for all practical reasons, at 50-60F I feel some warmth but not enough to be comfortable. In the 40's they are practically useless. Can't believe Triumph charges so much for a piece of S**t. Did I get a lemon, or is the the heated grip really that bad?

Also, does anyone know how difficult it is to uninstall it?
I got the same installed when I bought the bike. I was ridding last week when it was 35 degrees. Hands were warm No problems--I also have good gloves.
rkclm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 02:35 PM   #15189
pilot3
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Oddometer: 403
Quote:
Originally Posted by TekurRides View Post
Are the OEM heated grips any good? I got my bike with the heated grips installed and now I regret wasting money on it. It is useless for all practical reasons, at 50-60F I feel some warmth but not enough to be comfortable. In the 40's they are practically useless. Can't believe Triumph charges so much for a piece of S**t. Did I get a lemon, or is the the heated grip really that bad?

Also, does anyone know how difficult it is to uninstall it?
Maybe a lemon. If they came installed on the bike, they will carry the same warranty as the bike. Get back to your dealer and insist on a set that get hot. Mine on high are plenty hot with leather gloves and I cannot even grab them without gloves on. Also remember, part of what you are paying for is the nice integration with the bike; no power wires off the battery or other places, fuse in the factory fuse block, nice places for the wires to run, harness connector and relay, etc. You can spend $35 for some Dual-Star grips or others and you will do a lot more work for not so nice a product.

There are many accessories from manufacturers that are not worth the money and some that are. Those decisions are left up to the individual purchaser and what is important to them. I don't like extra wires and haphazard switches, so the money for the Triumph grips and lights with their seamless integration was worth it. Other accessories, not so much, but like I said, personal preference prevails.
pilot3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 03:29 PM   #15190
bross
Where we riding to?
 
bross's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Oddometer: 4,524
My factory ones work fine as well, as good as the dual stars I have installed on several other bikes. I'll second the opinion on additional protection, better gloves etc. I used to commute to work in -12C (10F) and heated grips do not even get warm. I had Gerbings heated gloves for those really cold commutes and they kept my hands toasty.
bross is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 03:36 PM   #15191
KildareMan
Studly Adventurer
 
KildareMan's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: County Kildare, Ireland
Oddometer: 649
If your grips are only barely warm then there is a problem. Mine get proper hot within 10 mins, so much so I have to set it to the low setting.

Sent from my Tiger 800
KildareMan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 04:42 PM   #15192
swimmer
armchair asshole
 
swimmer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: tucson
Oddometer: 4,476
Quote:
Originally Posted by TekurRides View Post
Are the OEM heated grips any good? I got my bike with the heated grips installed and now I regret wasting money on it. It is useless for all practical reasons, at 50-60F I feel some warmth but not enough to be comfortable. In the 40's they are practically useless. Can't believe Triumph charges so much for a piece of S**t. Did I get a lemon, or is the the heated grip really that bad?

Also, does anyone know how difficult it is to uninstall it?
Most likely your gloves are the problem. Ironically most winter gloves suck for use with heated gloves.
swimmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 06:12 PM   #15193
White Trash Woody
Adventurer
 
White Trash Woody's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Location: Arkansas
Oddometer: 25
Need a upgrade for tiger odometer!

I recently purchase a 2012 triumph Tiger 800! I have owned several motorcycles over the years and This 800 Tiger has to be my favorite! The only thing wrong with it is you cant view the odometer while going down the road. I called my dealer in Memphis, Tn. and he confirmed it was not just me and my lack of computer skills or user error, but in fact thats the way it was designed. I would be willing to pay for and upgraded odometer or a fix/repair for this. Does any one know of a solution? Besides just live with it. :(
White Trash Woody is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 06:46 PM   #15194
TekurRides
Adventurer
 
Joined: Jul 2012
Location: NorCal
Oddometer: 67
I think they are lemons based on what you said. I can grab mine easily when they are set on high with bare hands. And even then they are like warm, not hot. Can the others also confirm that their heated grips are so hot that it is uncomfortable to hold them with bare hand?

Also, I do use winter gloves, anything else would not keep the top of my hands warm, right? And I ride between 65-80mph. I have the stock handle guard, which probably covers between 50-75% of my hand.

The situation is so bad that my hands are numb by the time I reach home from work, a 40 min commute. I am planning to get gerbrings, but I would have thought that the OEM heated grips would at least keep me from getting numb.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pilot3 View Post
Mine on high are plenty hot with leather gloves and I cannot even grab them without gloves on.
TekurRides is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-20-2012, 07:27 PM   #15195
bross
Where we riding to?
 
bross's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Osoyoos, BC
Oddometer: 4,524
At those speeds and temperatures for that duration, there's no way heated grips will keep your hands warm. Even if they were burning hot, the backs of your hands would still freeze and you'd end up with frozen digits. Wind chill is a huge factor riding. The best thing you can do to keep your hands from freezing is to protect them from the wind. A pair of hippo hands aren't sexy but you'll at least be able to use your fingers when you get home. Or as I mentioned, I used to use a combination of heated grips(basically to just take the chill off the hand grips) and a pair of Gerbings heated gloves. The heated gloves heat the back of your hand so help keep them warm against the wind.

I bought the heated gloves after I arrived at work with a pair of stumps, I had to pull the clutch in with my wrist as my hands were completely frozen and useless. Dangerous and bloody painful.
bross is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 12:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014