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Old 01-24-2013, 02:39 AM   #15496
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unlike some other adventure type bikes outt here that there is no option...one of them is the big one from Japan with the tuning fork logo on the tank.
Apparently there is a work around.
http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/47...isable-the-abs

But I remember seeing something at the launch of the Tenere that if you hit the rear first it would disable the ABS.
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:01 AM   #15497
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Ok, so here's the update. Made a pretty low offer today to the dealer. '12 leftover 800xc in the color I want. His counter offer was $10,700 plus sales tax and some document fees. Freight and prep are waived. Additionally, there are 2 accessories I'd like which add up to about $500, for those there was no discount and about $100 to install. I asked if he could move any further to meet my offer which was still $1300 lower for total OTD, his words were, "I'm all in."

Looks like about $2,000 discounted from full list and the usual freight and prep charges.

What do you think? Is there wisdom in trying to further negotiate? We are in the middle of an intense cold spell. the least appealing month, for most people, to buy! Looking for a great deal, plus a good long term relationship for service needs.

Thanks!
I've never understood the need to get every last bit of discount that you can. If you like the bike and want the bike, is it worth all the hassle to save a couple bucks ? Just buy it....
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:52 AM   #15498
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Ok, so here's the update. Made a pretty low offer today to the dealer. '12 leftover 800xc in the color I want. His counter offer was $10,700 plus sales tax and some document fees. Freight and prep are waived. Additionally, there are 2 accessories I'd like which add up to about $500, for those there was no discount and about $100 to install. I asked if he could move any further to meet my offer which was still $1300 lower for total OTD, his words were, "I'm all in."

Looks like about $2,000 discounted from full list and the usual freight and prep charges.

What do you think? Is there wisdom in trying to further negotiate? We are in the middle of an intense cold spell. the least appealing month, for most people, to buy! Looking for a great deal, plus a good long term relationship for service needs.

Thanks!
I'm pretty sure that if you walked out the door and the dealer didn't make another, lower offer, he is at the bottom. Sounds like a good deal to me. If you keep pushing you're just going to piss him off.
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:41 AM   #15499
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I'm pretty sure that if you walked out the door and the dealer didn't make another, lower offer, he is at the bottom. Sounds like a good deal to me. If you keep pushing you're just going to piss him off.
+1. That's a good deal, especially if you wanna keep a relationship. If you're talking about the engine guard and centerstand-mount 'em yourself-easy to do
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:58 AM   #15500
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Ok, so here's the update. Made a pretty low offer today to the dealer. '12 leftover 800xc in the color I want. His counter offer was $10,700 plus sales tax and some document fees. Freight and prep are waived. Additionally, there are 2 accessories I'd like which add up to about $500, for those there was no discount and about $100 to install. I asked if he could move any further to meet my offer which was still $1300 lower for total OTD, his words were, "I'm all in."

Looks like about $2,000 discounted from full list and the usual freight and prep charges.

What do you think? Is there wisdom in trying to further negotiate? We are in the middle of an intense cold spell. the least appealing month, for most people, to buy! Looking for a great deal, plus a good long term relationship for service needs.

Thanks!
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:24 AM   #15501
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Buy it!! That's a good deal on a GREAT bike!
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:25 AM   #15502
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And as far as a katoom for 2 up, there's no way in hell I would put my wife through that. The seat is way too narrow. If its just a weekend jaunt you should be fine but I wouldnt excatly call the XC a "2 up tourer".
As soon as she got on the back of the 990, she said "No way!". I wasn't really into the general seating position. It just didn't feel like a place I wanted to spend all day. For sure, it's a great dirt bike, but, I'm not that hardcore.

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That is awesome! I'd definitely do that if I could find someone to ride pillion with me who had no interest in an actual relationship beyond the bike, drinks, and sex.
Well, that's putting it out there.

And, I've met women like that. Usually, they're married to someone else.

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One of my first mods was to improve the passenger seat for the wife.
Her complaint was that it's angled downward, too much. I don't get why designers always do that.

She saw the nasty looking Corbin and it piqued her interest. However, there's no way would I put that on any bike of mine.

I'm signed up for Sargent's T800 release notification. If it looks anything like their Super Tenere offering, it should be perfect. We'll see.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:31 AM   #15503
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Ok, so here's the update. Made a pretty low offer today to the dealer. '12 leftover 800xc in the color I want. His counter offer was $10,700 plus sales tax and some document fees. Freight and prep are waived. Additionally, there are 2 accessories I'd like which add up to about $500, for those there was no discount and about $100 to install. I asked if he could move any further to meet my offer which was still $1300 lower for total OTD, his words were, "I'm all in."

Looks like about $2,000 discounted from full list and the usual freight and prep charges.

What do you think? Is there wisdom in trying to further negotiate? We are in the middle of an intense cold spell. the least appealing month, for most people, to buy! Looking for a great deal, plus a good long term relationship for service needs.

Thanks!
That's a deal you need to take. I wouldn't jeopardize a potential "relationship" by pressing any further, on the bike. Though, there's, usually, at least a 10% discount on accessories purchased with the bike. You may casually ask. Either way, I'd still go for it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:42 AM   #15504
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Thanks. I've done just a few different seats but have been doing uphostery stuff and marlinspike work for years.

I find the stock seat one of the best I've ever seen (the new explorer is even nicer) so I haven't messed with it. But if you could figure out what would help you personally you could probably get a good upholsterer to make the mods for you for a couple hundred bucks. Seats are really pretty simple. The custom covers are what costs.

I did a DIY/How-to thing on the Versys owners forum that has a ton of links for other custom seat info, and materials sources. There are quite a few seat mod people in there too. You don't need to join the forum to read the thread, has 6K views! http://www.kawasakiversys.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11152&highlight=custom+seat

If the seat isn't comfortable then riding the bike is no fun!
Nice, thanks for the link, the Versys seat looks great too. I agree that the stock seat is pretty good. It feels great when I first sit on it, but like I say, after an hour or so, it just feels too compressed and I can't find much relief with repositioning. It's not nearly as bad as my stock SV seat was, I get uncomfortable on the Tiger seat, but I was in outright pain on the SV. I got a Sargent after that though, and even though it didn't have that much cushion, it was a huge improvement. I would still get uncomfortable on the bike after a while, but that was due to ergonomics, not my butt. The ergos on the Tiger seem to be pretty sorted out, so now I just need to take care of my gentleman's area and I should be good to go. I'm on the email list for Sargent if/when they get their Tiger seat made, but if that takes too long (or is too pricey), I might just have to get DIY with it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:46 AM   #15505
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I've heard the gel seats are way better
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #15506
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I have heard the gel seats are terrible. I recall seeing a picture of one that the owner disassembled to try and alter some and the gel padding was just big enough to be able to call it a "gel" seat.

I just sent mine out to Spencers yesterday, I'll post back once I receive it and actually take it for a decent ride. It's been mighty chilly here lately.

As far as DennyMyBoys OTD price. That seems real good to me. As far as knocking the accessories down, I think the dealer is keeping them at MSRP because he is selling the bike so cheap. Hard to have the best of both worlds. When I bought my Tiger almost 2 years ago I paid full MSRP on the bike because they were hardly even in showrooms yet but I got a healthy discount on the accessories I bought with it.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:16 AM   #15507
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Actually the gel seat is much better than the stock seat but it's still not good enough. I bought the rider's gel seat to have as a spare and to use while my stock seat takes a trip to Russell where it's enjoying a rebuild as a Russell Day Long saddle right now.
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Old 01-24-2013, 10:23 AM   #15508
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I agree, it doesn't take much to be better than the stock seat though. For me it's a groin killer after about an hour. I hadn't heard great things about the gel seat so I didn't want to waste my money on that. I've had good luck with Spencer on another seat so I figured I'd give it a shot for only $75.
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:02 AM   #15509
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Pretty happy with my Corbin.

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Old 01-24-2013, 11:09 AM   #15510
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The Corbin does look good but my experience with them hasn't been the greatest. It seems they like to have the rider positioned near the rear portion of the seat usually. That puts me further from the bars than I'd like. Maybe if I were taller that would work out okay. I always thought Corbin would be great if you could ride in to them and have them build the seat while you wait there. The seat was quality, it just didn't work out for me.
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