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Old 01-26-2013, 09:50 AM   #15541
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To beak or not to beak.

I have contemplated that age old question (well, since 2011 when I got my Tiger).

At first I thought I had to have one to complete the look of the bike.
A plus was it would annoy some BMW GS owners. But that wasn't a good enough reason.
If the beak did something other than cosmetic (flying mud not a problem for my Roadie).
Maybe if it directed more air to the radiator or air away from me I could justify it.

Hopefully this animated GIF will help others (I hope it animates!).
Otherwise you will see two separate images.

My opinion:
The beak completes the lines or flow of the tank.
But I would have to paint the front fender black so the beak wouldn't look redundant.



Thanks to the person that posted a picture of his bike so I could play with it.

Vzuke screwed with this post 01-27-2013 at 07:40 AM Reason: GIF stopped animating
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:59 AM   #15542
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984, hurry up and get one! This could be you soon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6preGN0rM

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Old 01-26-2013, 10:13 AM   #15543
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My opinion:
The beak completes the lines or flow of the tank.
But I would have to paint the front fender black so the beak wouldn't look redundant.
Agreed. The nice thing is one could do that with a rattle can.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:17 AM   #15544
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Has anyone done their own valve adjustment (with pics) yet on the 800? Would it be similar to the Daytona once you get to the motor?

Please post up some wisdom if you have.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:07 PM   #15545
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19" Front on Tiger 800XC?

I’m going to go tubeless on my 2011 800XC. Since I have to ride on pavement for 100-150 miles before I reach any decent gravel/dirt roads and two track jeep trails, I was thinking of putting a 19” rim on the front to give it a little more highway bias. I don’t see myself using the bike for tight single track/dual sport rides (I have a street legal XR650R for that) so I won’t be sacrificing any real dirt worthiness for my use.

I was wondering if anyone here has used, or is using, a 19” on the front? Do any of you suspension savvy guys know if it would it upset the balance of the bike enough to make it less stable at highway speeds?

Thanks.
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Old 01-26-2013, 04:29 PM   #15546
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Im going to go tubeless on my 2011 800XC. Since I have to ride on pavement for 100-150 miles before I reach any decent gravel/dirt roads and two track jeep trails, I was thinking of putting a 19 rim on the front to give it a little more highway bias. I dont see myself using the bike for tight single track/dual sport rides (I have a street legal XR650R for that) so I wont be sacrificing any real dirt worthiness for my use.

I was wondering if anyone here has used, or is using, a 19 on the front? Do any of you suspension savvy guys know if it would it upset the balance of the bike enough to make it less stable at highway speeds?

Thanks.
Between the ABS & the geometry already at the edge of extreme, it's not recommended.
Personally, I would like to see somebody install the roadie wheels on an XC & see what happens.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:05 PM   #15547
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Maybe it's because I just came from a "cruiser," but my XC corners like a DREAM!! Way better than anything I've ever ridden!
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:23 PM   #15548
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Im going to go tubeless on my 2011 800XC. Since I have to ride on pavement for 100-150 miles before I reach any decent gravel/dirt roads and two track jeep trails, I was thinking of putting a 19 rim on the front to give it a little more highway bias. I dont see myself using the bike for tight single track/dual sport rides (I have a street legal XR650R for that) so I wont be sacrificing any real dirt worthiness for my use.

I was wondering if anyone here has used, or is using, a 19 on the front? Do any of you suspension savvy guys know if it would it upset the balance of the bike enough to make it less stable at highway speeds?

Thanks.
I put 8K miles on my Versys which is well known to be a great little canyon carver, and with 4K on the XC I think it's just as good if not faster due to a superior motor. What is it about the XC that you don't like on the road? So you have to give it a little more nudge of counter steer to lean it, but it handles like a dream.

If you are doing any dirt the 21 front is just way better. The GS guys are installing 21's on theirs.

I just don't get it.
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Old 01-26-2013, 05:30 PM   #15549
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Been thinking about the same thing.
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Old 01-26-2013, 09:00 PM   #15550
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Gotta agree with The Browneye on this one. The XC is only limited by ground clearance of the foot pegs when riding hard in the twisty bits. However, there is a work around which I've used on every bike I have owned. It's called hanging off, which increases your available lean angle. Anybody who can hustle a sport bike at a good clip around a track (or the street) knows this. With the stock Battlewings or any street tire for that matter, the bike will have no problem hanging with full on sport bikes, but the rider better have the skill set to deal with it before coming here and bitching about the 21" front tire holding him back. That's just a sorry ass excuse for lack of riding skill. I'm very tempted to take my XC to a track day this year. Picking off novices in the beginner class would be huge fun.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:25 AM   #15551
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No. I meant after market bits, like a set of Penske/Ohlins shocks and Traxxion AK20 cartridges.

One of the best things to do on a HD XR1200 is to replace the shocks with longer aftermarket models. That jacks up the rearend, which nets more travel and reduces rake.

I'm simply thinking aloud, here.
The shocks on mine were Hagon which worked OK but no-one makes anything with a longer stoke. The steering on the Scram is quite steep (steeper than a Bonnie) already so jacking up the rear even more could make it unstable. Harleys all have quite raked out front ends so I guess you can get away with that. Also, as I mentioned already, you increase shock length, you increase seat height to unmanageable levels.
Anyway, I made my choice and got the XC which, incidentally, has a similar seat height, more power, longer tank range and is lighter.
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Old 01-27-2013, 03:32 AM   #15552
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Maybe it's because I just came from a "cruiser," but my XC corners like a DREAM!! Way better than anything I've ever ridden!
It's not because you come from a cruiser. The XC corners at least, if not better than my Tiger955. The XC steering is lighter and it holds a line just as well. I do think ultimate grip at the front will be a little less with the 21"er but I haven't got to that level yet.
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Old 01-27-2013, 08:01 AM   #15553
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Winter blues stimulates bike sales

Just signed papers on the 800 XC in green Saturday. Its not due in till mid February. Something about bike shopping this time of year that helps me through the winter.

I'm reading through this thread last night. I confess that I added all the Triumph options onto the bike. Bag's, center stand, skid plate... I'll be calling them on Tuesday to cancel most of that and keep the heated grips. I want to get something more robust as I plan on riding this on Dual Sport rides and lite off road trails. I have a KTM 350 EXC-F that is a brilliant off-road machine that is a from the factory street legal bike. I use it for Turkey Runs mostly and Enduro's when I feel up for some punishment. I wanted the Triumph to try some camping, dirt roads in VT/NH/Maine and to explore longer range than my play bikes I own.

Here's what I'm thinking for options

AltRider skid plate

VPS Barkbusters

Handlebar risers (Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200, '12-, Tiger 800 / 800XC, '11-) 20mm rise


SW-MOTECH Heel Guard Right Side (Triumph Tiger 800 & Tiger 800XC '11-)

SW-MOTECH Heel Guard Left Side (Triumph Tiger 800 & Tiger 800XC '11-)


Renthal # 289-525-15 drop the front sprocket one tooth

heidenau k60 tires

fork protectors made by Kreiga


Holan Bags with locks for my commuting duties


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Old 01-27-2013, 09:45 AM   #15554
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984, hurry up and get one! This could be you soon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6preGN0rM

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Old 01-27-2013, 09:53 AM   #15555
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Yeah. It's killing me too. Time to move south. !! I wanna ride
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