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Old 11-03-2010, 06:48 PM   #1546
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thread here:
New Husqvarna 800 Twin coming
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:19 PM   #1547
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Go buy a Speed Triple, 17" front wheel, equidistant mufflers both sides, syling that might suit. Then again, why not a Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade or or... a Yamaha TDM or even maybe the new Honda 800 "CrossDresser"!

Goodnight Irene, we are so spoiled for choice in this age that if you can't find something to suit that you cannot then modify and tweak to suit your precise requirements then you gotta problem!
Well, I personally find it easier to randomly pick the bike I want, based on industry hype, a coin flip or a oujii board, then demand that they change it to my exacting specifications. Isn't that how everyone does it?
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:24 PM   #1548
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It looks like a portion of the budget deficit too!

It's a strange thing how VAT works!

It started as a "luxury" tax......A luxury nowadays is heating electricity etc

If I sell to the US it's a 17.5% discount straight away...
We've got the same thing - "IVA" en español, plus importation tax, so I'd be paying more than England.

Well, England needs the money to supply Torchwood with cool toys.
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:31 PM   #1549
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Aye!

Coming to show rooms for summer..... 2050.
Right after the Honda New American Sport!
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Old 11-03-2010, 07:45 PM   #1550
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Right after the Honda New American Sport!
Morning or afternoon?

I don't want either of these events to clash with anything in my diary.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:01 PM   #1551
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how about we talk about the....Tiger 800?

Cycleworld posted some good photos.
http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle...t_look/gallery



The black bike is well farkled with Triumph bolt-ons (bash guard, centerstand, engine guards, aux lights, headlight protector, 3 piece hard luggage, tank bag).

I would have liked to have seen more pics of close-ups of either roadie or XC version without all the farkles in the way (oil filter location --looks like there might a oil cooler/heat exchanger on the block, drain plug location, switch gear (is the display info accessible via a handlebar button?), a good close-up to really see if the tank is indeed under the seat/tail (sure looks like it...but i would like a better shot), the fork bottoms....oh well there will be time for once they are in the showrooms i guess.

Looks like the black bike (which does not have the XC on the tank but otherwise sure looks like one) has its seat in the highest position. the yellow and orange ones later in the gallery have their seats in the lower position. Since only the black bike has a centerstand, I suppose that is not a standard item...bummer.

I like the big analog tach and digital speedo. A gear indicator would be useful (does the street triple have one?).
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:10 PM   #1552
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Is that a tank bag or a block of apartments???

Never understood the point of a gear indicator outside racing.

Looking forward to getting one of these dirty.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:19 PM   #1553
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how about we talk about the....Tiger 800?

Cycleworld posted some good photos.
http://www.cycleworld.com/motorcycle...t_look/gallery



The black bike is well farkled with Triumph bolt-ons (bash guard, centerstand, engine guards, aux lights, headlight protector, 3 piece hard luggage, tank bag).

I would have liked to have seen more pics of close-ups of either roadie or XC version without all the farkles in the way (oil filter location --looks like there might a oil cooler/heat exchanger on the block, drain plug location, switch gear (is the display info accessible via a handlebar button?), a good close-up to really see if the tank is indeed under the seat/tail (sure looks like it...but i would like a better shot), the fork bottoms....oh well there will be time for once they are in the showrooms i guess.

Looks like the black bike (which does not have the XC on the tank but otherwise sure looks like one) has its seat in the highest position. the yellow and orange ones later in the gallery have their seats in the lower position. Since only the black bike has a centerstand, I suppose that is not a standard item...bummer.

I like the big analog tach and digital speedo. A gear indicator would be useful (does the street triple have one?).
Some nice close up shots in that link!
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:21 PM   #1554
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It's got an extra cylinder that the Stroms don't have.
Ah, I knew I was missing somthing. Man I need an extra one of those.

Looks like Triumph are catering to the baby boomers with money who want to look bad ass with an "ADV" bike.
A fall on this thing would buy a KLR.

I love the looks of the bike though, just not for me unless I come accross a nice used one to replace my strom, my road bike. No way would I take that monster off road and risk blowing a grand if it fell over.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:25 PM   #1555
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:35 PM   #1556
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050.
I'm not worried, I don't ride motorcycle spec sheets...


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Old 11-03-2010, 09:39 PM   #1557
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
bro it a comb of weight seat hight, and power. why didnt you buty the 1000?
i think its a winner for triumph. uses a lot of parts they do use and like some one said a 500 off this motor would be better off road bike. it is what it is..
i have a 1050 tiger done some of road bet very slowly. any bike thats heavy i wouldnt want to ride off road. if you do its kinda like a new 4 wheel truck is all. not so much an adv bike more like an explorer bike. and i like that
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:00 PM   #1558
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Interesting point as weight has its advantages and disadvantages in some areas. I might even venture to say if you are more road biased(and most of us are % wise) that there are more advantages to to weight than disadvantages.
Smoother ride
Don't get blown around as much on road
Better in gravel IMO --would vary between bikes

Only when it comes to pickup the bike or slow going man handling of the bike do i really feel my bike is heavy.

My last bike was 100 lbs heavier than my current bike and it was WAY better on gravel!

Just depends on what your doing with it.

You don't see that many posts of the KTM 990 being talked about as being a super heavy pig and its roughly 500lbs wet.
IMO extra weight will NOT improve any bikes handling on gravel . Handling on gravel depends upon steering geometry, tire choice, and handlebar position.
Note I have been riding on gravel since 1966.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:28 PM   #1559
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The ability to remove front wheel weight and turn it into rear wheel weight, quickly and smoothly, will make the gravel fun on it.
I am hoping it is as much fun to ride as the Street triple, but on the gravel backroads as well.
Being an adventure model might keep it from making the Ontario Motorcycle Blacklist where they get to charge up to a 400 percent surcharge, or flat out refuse to insure it.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:48 PM   #1560
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
Regardless of the weight "advantage" you mention, the 800 will appeal to people who want a smaller or midsize bike. You would be surprised how many there are. It may not be quite as fast or torquey as the 1050 but I will wager it will be plenty enough for most.

One of the big complaints of the 1050 Tiger is wind buffeting over about 80kph. It remains to be seen what the wind protection is like on the 800.
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