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Old 02-17-2013, 07:32 AM   #15811
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Does the XC come with an adjustable seat? If so, what is the lowest height setting. I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. Just curious if I'll be tip toeing at stops.
You're exactly the same dimensions as me and I can very nearly flat foot both feet on my XC with the seat in its highest position.
A lot of people don't set the rider sag properly and then moan that the bike is too tall. The sag with rider sat should be around 65~70mm which'll put the seat height below 800mm.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:40 PM   #15812
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I sold a new fully farkled Tiger 800 street after 6 months & 3.5K miles of ownership. Overall, it is a very nice bike - but didn't work out for my particular situation. Here's what I liked, and what I didn't:

LIKES:
  • The engine is a BEAST - with the Arrow exhaust it sounded like the turbine engine on a jet - and when you cranked back the throttle, you needed to hold on as before you know it you're hitting triple digits. Amazingly powerful & quick engine for an adventure oriented machine.
  • Comfortable seating position - pretty upright like most adventure oriented rides.
  • Handling - Very nimble, like a hot knife through butter if you know how to ride it - e.g. no chicken strip left on your tires.
  • Looks - I had mine in the white metalic - beautiful machine to behold - great lines.
  • OEM Accessory Options - just about everything you can think of to customize your ride - I got the ABS model with the high windscreen, Arrow exhaust, heated grips, engine & radiator guards, fog lights, panniers with waterproof liners, & a low gel seat. Then added, Rox risers, a set of Barkbusters and a Garmin 550 cradle connected into the battery.
DISLIKES:
  • Gas mileage was terrible - it promised 45-48 mpg - was lucky if I got 40 mpg, granted I rode it like I stole it.
  • Stock suspension SUCKED. I had a previous lumbar surgery and thought the Tiger would work with my back issues after a lengthy test ride. Once I put 500 miles on it around bumpy New England Roads, my back was wrecked. Threw down a Grand for an Ohlins shock, which did little to solve the problem - just not enough travel available in the bike no matter what I would have put on it. After 3.5K I ended up having a second lumbar surgery effectively cancelling my whole summer season and putting me out of work for 10 weeks. Sold it as I knew I couldn't risk a third surgery. Now back to my little old reliable long travel DS ride. I think the Tiger XC does a better job in this department however, but you'll need to be willing to gain an inch of seat height.
  • Not alot of Triumph dealerships around - if there's one near you you'll be ok - but they take a specially trained wrench to work 'em - lots of computerized electronics which take dedicated Triumph computerized analytics tools to diagnose any issues.
Hope this was helpful - good luck in your search!
If you want good petrol mileage then number 1 mistake is to fit the arrow exhaust & tune. They slaughter mileage and only give a very modest increase in power AND are flipping expensive.
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Old 02-17-2013, 01:10 PM   #15813
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If you want good petrol mileage then number 1 mistake is to fit the arrow exhaust & tune. They slaughter mileage and only give a very modest increase in power AND are flipping expensive.
Pretty funny. The poster made two decisions (arrow tune+aggressive riding) that guaranteed bad mpg then complains about. Apparently mpg was not that important. My first 12k miles has yielded an avg. of 54mpg.

Agree with the sucky suspension though but that is fixable with little heart ache.
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Old 02-17-2013, 09:28 PM   #15814
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Gentlemen -

I appreciate the information on the wrenching of the Tiger - was mis-informed by a couple dealers service departments - I now stand corrected.

On the mileage thing - I like to go fast and I like the Arrow exhaust - don't give a rat's A$$ about the gas mileage in comparison to the two previous points but thought is was important to mention given my set up (or any other for that matter) for others considering the bike. Not picking on anybody's rides here - only answering the question posed & providing an opinion based upon my ride and how it has performed given the specs provided. No need to get snarky boys - I'm sure your Moms taught you better than that.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:35 AM   #15815
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No need to get snarky boys - I'm sure your Moms taught you better than that.
I didn't find their responses "snarky"; just stating the obvious.
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Old 02-18-2013, 08:13 AM   #15816
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I appreciate the information on the wrenching of the Tiger - was mis-informed by a couple dealers service departments - I now stand corrected.
Those are the last people you should expect an honest answer from. They want your money, so of course they told you it takes specialized equipment/training to work on the bike! Service departments are how dealerships make most of their money.

While it is true that dealer mechanics receive special training for each bike and that they have Triumph-supplied tools and diagnostic software, essentially everything is available in the aftermarket as well. The Tiger 800s are actually quite easy bikes for the private mechanic to maintain.

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Old 02-18-2013, 08:55 AM   #15817
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No need to get snarky boys - I'm sure your Moms taught you better than that.

Condescending...yep. And "moms", "gentlemen", and "boys" in one post? Everything you posted sounds like you're trying to prove something. Consider just not posting. Really. Think bout it.


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Old 02-18-2013, 10:35 AM   #15818
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While it is true that dealer mechanics receive special training for each bike
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That's not strictly true actually.
My dealer's chief mechanic let slip that they have to pay Triumph to go on those courses. So, if the bike is pretty much the same as another model, e.g. 675 Vs 800 engines, they don't go and just wing it when they get the new model in.
I'm OK with that because the basics will be exactly the same and so long as they have the specs (valve clearances for example) for the 800 they should still be able to do the job properly.
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Old 02-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #15819
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So the two main reasons she disliked the Tiger were gas mileage an special service needs? Did I read that right?
If so, maybe you need help picking a bike next time because you got it entirely wrong on both counts.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:23 AM   #15820
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That's not strictly true actually.
My dealer's chief mechanic let slip that they have to pay Triumph to go on those courses. So, if the bike is pretty much the same as another model, e.g. 675 Vs 800 engines, they don't go and just wing it when they get the new model in.
I'm OK with that because the basics will be exactly the same and so long as they have the specs (valve clearances for example) for the 800 they should still be able to do the job properly.
If they can deal the bikes then they can work on them. They will not deliver new models if they don't have qualified people.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:38 AM   #15821
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So are these bikes reliable, or am I going to be spending a lot of at the dealership two hours away for repairs? I know the internet has a way of magnifying things, but there seems to be a lot of talk about heat, stalling, fluid leaks etc. When I buy a bike, I'd rather ride than wrench. Especially at the XC's cost.
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Old 02-18-2013, 11:42 AM   #15822
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They're super reliable. I've put 31,000 miles on mine with no issues. Hasn't even needed a valve adjustment.

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Old 02-18-2013, 11:44 AM   #15823
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So are these bikes reliable, or am I going to be spending a lot of at the dealership two hours away for repairs? I know the internet has a way of magnifying things, but there seems to be a lot of talk about heat, stalling, fluid leaks etc. When I buy a bike, I'd rather ride than wrench. Especially at the XC's cost.
all triumphs are known to be reliable. the XC is no exception.

fluid leaks? where did you see this?

Stalling was a software issue and has been fixed.
not sure about your heat reference. some think the bike does not disperse the heat properly and blows back on the legs. my response is, don't wear shorts... bikes are hot, if you want air conditioning stay in your car.
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:35 PM   #15824
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26,200 kms, zero issues.

Replaced tyres, oil, put fuel in, ride.

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:54 PM   #15825
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So are these bikes reliable, or am I going to be spending a lot of at the dealership two hours away for repairs? I know the internet has a way of magnifying things, but there seems to be a lot of talk about heat, stalling, fluid leaks etc. When I buy a bike, I'd rather ride than wrench. Especially at the XC's cost.
Very reliable! I have 20K miles in 14 months with zero problems. I swing into my dealership every couple months just so they don't forget my face. I pick up a t-shirt or a refrigerator magnet to justify my visit, hang out for awhile, and then I'm on my way. If reliability is your deciding factor - buy it!!!
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