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Old 02-15-2013, 04:04 PM   #15856
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Metal mule has a pretty narrow symmetrical setup. $$$ though. And you need a narrow pipe.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:54 PM   #15857
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Is the gas tank steel or does it have a plastic cover on the Tigers?
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Old 02-16-2013, 01:35 PM   #15858
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Is the gas tank steel or does it have a plastic cover on the Tigers?
The tank is not plastic as my tankbag mags to it. It does already have small plastic guards on the side though.
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Old 02-16-2013, 01:59 PM   #15859
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Ive been looking hard at the Tiger since it first came on the scene and I am now looking even harder at buying a lightly used 2011 800 (non xc - non abs).

Being a long time Weestrom owner I am tossed up between the slightly reworked strom and the 800... I really want something "different" so instead of going with the make/model bike I know and have relied on for many years the Tiger seems to be the one.

Ive read thru as much of this thread as I can and I see several mentions of recalls and some seem a bit more worrisome than others. Ive also noticed what appears to be a somewhat high "turn-over" rate on them (people selling after a short time.. most say something like "its just not the bike for me"... or similar).

What am I too look out for?

Any reason I dont want to buy a Tiger?
I sold a new fully farkled Tiger 800 street after 6 months & 3.5K miles of ownership. Overall, it is a very nice bike - but didn't work out for my particular situation. Here's what I liked, and what I didn't:

LIKES:
  • The engine is a BEAST - with the Arrow exhaust it sounded like the turbine engine on a jet - and when you cranked back the throttle, you needed to hold on as before you know it you're hitting triple digits. Amazingly powerful & quick engine for an adventure oriented machine.
  • Comfortable seating position - pretty upright like most adventure oriented rides.
  • Handling - Very nimble, like a hot knife through butter if you know how to ride it - e.g. no chicken strip left on your tires.
  • Looks - I had mine in the white metalic - beautiful machine to behold - great lines.
  • OEM Accessory Options - just about everything you can think of to customize your ride - I got the ABS model with the high windscreen, Arrow exhaust, heated grips, engine & radiator guards, fog lights, panniers with waterproof liners, & a low gel seat. Then added, Rox risers, a set of Barkbusters and a Garmin 550 cradle connected into the battery.
DISLIKES:
  • Gas mileage was terrible - it promised 45-48 mpg - was lucky if I got 40 mpg, granted I rode it like I stole it.
  • Stock suspension SUCKED. I had a previous lumbar surgery and thought the Tiger would work with my back issues after a lengthy test ride. Once I put 500 miles on it around bumpy New England Roads, my back was wrecked. Threw down a Grand for an Ohlins shock, which did little to solve the problem - just not enough travel available in the bike no matter what I would have put on it. After 3.5K I ended up having a second lumbar surgery effectively cancelling my whole summer season and putting me out of work for 10 weeks. Sold it as I knew I couldn't risk a third surgery. Now back to my little old reliable long travel DS ride. I think the Tiger XC does a better job in this department however, but you'll need to be willing to gain an inch of seat height.
  • Not alot of Triumph dealerships around - if there's one near you you'll be ok - but they take a specially trained wrench to work 'em - lots of computerized electronics which take dedicated Triumph computerized analytics tools to diagnose any issues.
Hope this was helpful - good luck in your search!
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:03 PM   #15860
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[*]Not alot of Triumph dealerships around - if there's one near you you'll be ok - but they take a specially trained wrench to work 'em - lots of computerized electronics which take dedicated Triumph computerized analytics tools to diagnose any issues.[/LIST]Hope this was helpful - good luck in your search!
I'll agree there aren't a lot of dealers, but we have more Triumph dealers than Ducati. My dealer is two hours away, but I do all my own maintenance so only an issue for recalls etc. That's just not true about needing a "specially trained wrench". Buy DealerTool and or TuneECU and you can do any maintenance required in the service manual. I've owned TuneECU for awhile so I could update maps on my wife's Street Triple but I just bought DealerTool so I can now bleed the ABS brakes on my Tiger as well as reset the maintenance indicator. The Triumphs are just as easy to work on as any bike, in fact the valves were easier to check on the Street Triple than on my Honda CBF.
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Old 02-16-2013, 05:56 PM   #15861
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Does the XC come with an adjustable seat? If so, what is the lowest height setting. I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. Just curious if I'll be tip toeing at stops.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:05 PM   #15862
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Does the XC come with an adjustable seat? If so, what is the lowest height setting. I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. Just curious if I'll be tip toeing at stops.
Hey Fireman,

Yes, the seat is adjustable, but I don't recall what the spec height is at the low setting. I'll go out and measure it in a bit if I can tear myself away from Supercross for a few minutes...250's are banging it up in the heat races!

I'm 5-10 with about the same inseam and I'm fine with the height, in fact I always ride with the seat in the high position, like the extra legroom. I can't flat foot it, but I really never expected to be able to. If you're ever over the the Dawsonville/Cumming area, let me know...you're welcome to have a look.

I measured the height, it's around 33" with the seat in the high position and preload set a little higher than it comes from the factory. Seems to be in keeping with the published spec's.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:19 PM   #15863
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The 9" Safari Jesse bags are supposed to be only 35 inches across.
happy trails denali cliff cuts are 36"
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #15864
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I am 5' 9" and can flat foot it in the low setting... High setting isn't bad either.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:20 PM   #15865
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Is the gas tank steel or does it have a plastic cover on the Tigers?
painted metal.
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Old 02-16-2013, 06:22 PM   #15866
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Does the XC come with an adjustable seat? If so, what is the lowest height setting. I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. Just curious if I'll be tip toeing at stops.
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/mo...specifications

Dimensions and Capacities
Length 2215mm (87.1in)
Width (handlebars) 865mm (34.0in)
Height without mirrors 1390mm (54.7in)
Seat Height 845mm (33.2in) - 865mm (34.0in)
Wheelbase 1545mm (60.8in)
Rake/Trail 24.3/95.3mm
Fuel Tank Capacity / Efficiency 19.0 litres (5.0 US gals)
Wet Weight (ready to ride) 215 kg (473 lbs)
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:32 AM   #15867
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Does the XC come with an adjustable seat? If so, what is the lowest height setting. I'm 5'10" with a 30 inch inseam. Just curious if I'll be tip toeing at stops.
You're exactly the same dimensions as me and I can very nearly flat foot both feet on my XC with the seat in its highest position.
A lot of people don't set the rider sag properly and then moan that the bike is too tall. The sag with rider sat should be around 65~70mm which'll put the seat height below 800mm.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:40 AM   #15868
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I sold a new fully farkled Tiger 800 street after 6 months & 3.5K miles of ownership. Overall, it is a very nice bike - but didn't work out for my particular situation. Here's what I liked, and what I didn't:

LIKES:
  • The engine is a BEAST - with the Arrow exhaust it sounded like the turbine engine on a jet - and when you cranked back the throttle, you needed to hold on as before you know it you're hitting triple digits. Amazingly powerful & quick engine for an adventure oriented machine.
  • Comfortable seating position - pretty upright like most adventure oriented rides.
  • Handling - Very nimble, like a hot knife through butter if you know how to ride it - e.g. no chicken strip left on your tires.
  • Looks - I had mine in the white metalic - beautiful machine to behold - great lines.
  • OEM Accessory Options - just about everything you can think of to customize your ride - I got the ABS model with the high windscreen, Arrow exhaust, heated grips, engine & radiator guards, fog lights, panniers with waterproof liners, & a low gel seat. Then added, Rox risers, a set of Barkbusters and a Garmin 550 cradle connected into the battery.
DISLIKES:
  • Gas mileage was terrible - it promised 45-48 mpg - was lucky if I got 40 mpg, granted I rode it like I stole it.
  • Stock suspension SUCKED. I had a previous lumbar surgery and thought the Tiger would work with my back issues after a lengthy test ride. Once I put 500 miles on it around bumpy New England Roads, my back was wrecked. Threw down a Grand for an Ohlins shock, which did little to solve the problem - just not enough travel available in the bike no matter what I would have put on it. After 3.5K I ended up having a second lumbar surgery effectively cancelling my whole summer season and putting me out of work for 10 weeks. Sold it as I knew I couldn't risk a third surgery. Now back to my little old reliable long travel DS ride. I think the Tiger XC does a better job in this department however, but you'll need to be willing to gain an inch of seat height.
  • Not alot of Triumph dealerships around - if there's one near you you'll be ok - but they take a specially trained wrench to work 'em - lots of computerized electronics which take dedicated Triumph computerized analytics tools to diagnose any issues.
Hope this was helpful - good luck in your search!
If you want good petrol mileage then number 1 mistake is to fit the arrow exhaust & tune. They slaughter mileage and only give a very modest increase in power AND are flipping expensive.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:10 PM   #15869
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If you want good petrol mileage then number 1 mistake is to fit the arrow exhaust & tune. They slaughter mileage and only give a very modest increase in power AND are flipping expensive.
Pretty funny. The poster made two decisions (arrow tune+aggressive riding) that guaranteed bad mpg then complains about. Apparently mpg was not that important. My first 12k miles has yielded an avg. of 54mpg.

Agree with the sucky suspension though but that is fixable with little heart ache.
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Old 02-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #15870
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Gentlemen -

I appreciate the information on the wrenching of the Tiger - was mis-informed by a couple dealers service departments - I now stand corrected.

On the mileage thing - I like to go fast and I like the Arrow exhaust - don't give a rat's A$$ about the gas mileage in comparison to the two previous points but thought is was important to mention given my set up (or any other for that matter) for others considering the bike. Not picking on anybody's rides here - only answering the question posed & providing an opinion based upon my ride and how it has performed given the specs provided. No need to get snarky boys - I'm sure your Moms taught you better than that.
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