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Old 11-03-2010, 10:39 PM   #1576
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
bro it a comb of weight seat hight, and power. why didnt you buty the 1000?
i think its a winner for triumph. uses a lot of parts they do use and like some one said a 500 off this motor would be better off road bike. it is what it is..
i have a 1050 tiger done some of road bet very slowly. any bike thats heavy i wouldnt want to ride off road. if you do its kinda like a new 4 wheel truck is all. not so much an adv bike more like an explorer bike. and i like that
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:00 PM   #1577
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Interesting point as weight has its advantages and disadvantages in some areas. I might even venture to say if you are more road biased(and most of us are % wise) that there are more advantages to to weight than disadvantages.
Smoother ride
Don't get blown around as much on road
Better in gravel IMO --would vary between bikes

Only when it comes to pickup the bike or slow going man handling of the bike do i really feel my bike is heavy.

My last bike was 100 lbs heavier than my current bike and it was WAY better on gravel!

Just depends on what your doing with it.

You don't see that many posts of the KTM 990 being talked about as being a super heavy pig and its roughly 500lbs wet.
IMO extra weight will NOT improve any bikes handling on gravel . Handling on gravel depends upon steering geometry, tire choice, and handlebar position.
Note I have been riding on gravel since 1966.
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Old 11-03-2010, 11:28 PM   #1578
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The ability to remove front wheel weight and turn it into rear wheel weight, quickly and smoothly, will make the gravel fun on it.
I am hoping it is as much fun to ride as the Street triple, but on the gravel backroads as well.
Being an adventure model might keep it from making the Ontario Motorcycle Blacklist where they get to charge up to a 400 percent surcharge, or flat out refuse to insure it.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:48 AM   #1579
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
Regardless of the weight "advantage" you mention, the 800 will appeal to people who want a smaller or midsize bike. You would be surprised how many there are. It may not be quite as fast or torquey as the 1050 but I will wager it will be plenty enough for most.

One of the big complaints of the 1050 Tiger is wind buffeting over about 80kph. It remains to be seen what the wind protection is like on the 800.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:53 AM   #1580
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Ah, I knew I was missing somthing. Man I need an extra one of those.

Looks like Triumph are catering to the baby boomers with money who want to look bad ass with an "ADV" bike.
A fall on this thing would buy a KLR.

I love the looks of the bike though, just not for me unless I come accross a nice used one to replace my strom, my road bike. No way would I take that monster off road and risk blowing a grand if it fell over.
Everything you said also applies the BMW's. (Except for maybe the looks part) Plenty of those get to go off road and get beaten up.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:07 AM   #1581
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This new XC really has my attention...I have been lusting after the GS800 as a replacement for my KLR. I think the XC will be even better.

I like the 2 piece seat, is the pillon removable for cargo?

adjustable seat and bars...nice touch

Fuel capacity is decent...is it under seat?

Power is nice...would like more torque but it will do. That motor should have lots of soul as well

alt output seems more than adequate for solo duty.

I think Triumph has built the bike I have been looking for. Solo touring/adventure bike.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:21 AM   #1582
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I like the 2 piece seat, is the pillon removable for cargo?
Yes, it's been designed that way I believe.

On this 'spy' pic the rear seat has been removed so more gear can be bungeed on the back.

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Old 11-04-2010, 04:26 AM   #1583
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front fork adjustability?
I only care for the XC really.
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:36 AM   #1584
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Yes, it's been designed that way I believe.

On this 'spy' pic the rear seat has been removed so more gear can be bungeed on the back.
I thought that was the case...I haven't been following along because of all the BS...now that the bike is here my interest is as well

It looks like just the ticket for me atleast..Solo touring, back road blasting, dirt road riding...the occasional 2 track.

Anybody in the market for a farkled 07 KLR
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:26 AM   #1585
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:43 AM   #1586
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Latest Specs from the Triumph UK site:



Changes from the first specifications at TriumphAdventure are:

Length - INCREASED: +10 mm / +0.4 inch (from 2215 mm to 2225 mm)

Width - DECREASED: -5 mm / -0.2 inch (from 865 mm to 860 mm)

Height - DECREASED: -19 mm / -0.8 inch (from 1390 mm to 1371 mm)

Seat Height - INCREASED: +15 mm / +0.6 inch (from min. 845 mm to 860 mm)

Wheelbase - DECREASED: -30 mm / -1.2 inch (from 1568 mm to 1538 mm)

Fuel Tank Capacity - INCREASED: +0.7 liter / +0.2 US Gallon (from 19 liters to 19.7 liters)


Source: Triumph UK Tiger 800XC Specifications

Still no official price yet....


But hey... REMEMBER!
This is all spec-sheet stuff - I'm just VERY eager now to hear/read the ride reports!
As someone has rightly said:

You don't ride a Spec-Sheet!
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Old 11-04-2010, 05:44 AM   #1587
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Tube or tubeless rims on the XC??
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:30 AM   #1588
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Tube or tubeless rims on the XC??
At this price point if they are spoked wheels they will have tubes.
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Old 11-04-2010, 06:35 AM   #1589
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I can understand the appeal of the XC, but on paper I'm not impressed by how the Tiger 800 compares to the Tiger 1050. According to Triumph numbers, the 1050 weighs 40 pounds more, but puts out 72 ft-lb of torque vs. 58 for the 800. If you do the math, the 1050 has a 14% weight/torque advantage. In addition, the 1050 has what looks like better wind protection, and a better seat. I know everyone looks for different things, but I'm underwhelmed, considering the two bikes have similar missions. Maybe cost will be enough of an advantage for the 800.
Suspension travel?

Wheel size/type?

The current big tiger is really a lot more street-oriented than this new Tiger XC.

If you never plan to get off pavement, then maybe the big Tiger is what you need...
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:24 AM   #1590
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Suspension travel?

Wheel size/type?

The current big tiger is really a lot more street-oriented than this new Tiger XC.

If you never plan to get off pavement, then maybe the big Tiger is what you need...
He was talking about the 800 not the 800XC
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