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Old 02-22-2013, 01:40 PM   #15976
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Put a stethoscope up to the right side of the cylinder block and cold start the bike. It should come through, loud and clear.
Yeah, I'll often do that with a piece of broomstick. But in this case it wasn't needed. The sound and location was plain as day. And once I got the tensioner out, it was clear that the resister ring was out of position and not engaging the rachets.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:35 PM   #15977
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For what it's worth, mine started making that startup clatter at about 6,000 miles. It irritated me, so I followed the procedure in the manual for removing the tensioner. Looking at it, I saw that the resister ring (the piece tht holds the plunger in place in absence of oil pressure) was out of position. I reset the ring and reinstalled the tensioner and no more noise.
I looked through the manual. Damn, quite a bit involved in removing/replacing the tensionser. I think I'll probably plan to do the valve inspection at the same time. I think it was two screws to remove the tensioner on my versys.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:46 PM   #15978
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I looked through the manual. Damn, quite a bit involved in removing/replacing the tensionser. I think I'll probably plan to do the valve inspection at the same time. I think it was two screws to remove the tensioner on my versys.
Note: this is not professional motorcycle advice. I don't know shit about anything as far as you know.

If I were doing it again, I would leave the tank in place and not bother with the valve cover removal. I'd take off the right side cover to turn the motor and wedge the chain, and then I'd pop out the tensioner.
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Old 02-23-2013, 01:56 AM   #15979
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Cam chain noise and valve clatter sound totally different.
But a clatter at startup that goes away after a couple of seconds just screams tensioner at me.
Quite right but if the noise goes away it proves that the tensioner is working. Mine did it after the bike had been standing for a couple of months. Obviously all the oil had drained out of the tensioner. I'm not worried at all. After all, have you heard a BMW start up after 30 seconds of standing on the side stand?
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Old 02-23-2013, 06:52 AM   #15980
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Note: this is not professional motorcycle advice. I don't know shit about anything as far as you know.

If I were doing it again, I would leave the tank in place and not bother with the valve cover removal. I'd take off the right side cover to turn the motor and wedge the chain, and then I'd pop out the tensioner.
Yep.

There's a how-to here. Note: The "ignition cover" is a typo and should say right/counter balancer cover. I did mine exactly like this.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:06 AM   #15981
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Yep.

There's a how-to here. Note: The "ignition cover" is a typo and should say right/counter balancer cover. I did mine exactly like this.
Thanks. Seems like most of the motions in the manual are related to making sure you haven't screwed up the cam timing.
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:42 AM   #15982
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Quite right but if the noise goes away it proves that the tensioner is working. Mine did it after the bike had been standing for a couple of months. Obviously all the oil had drained out of the tensioner. I'm not worried at all. After all, have you heard a BMW start up after 30 seconds of standing on the side stand?
Or a Speed Triple...
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:06 AM   #15983
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Thanks. Seems like most of the motions in the manual are related to making sure you haven't screwed up the cam timing.
Don't sweat it.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:39 PM   #15984
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Well... Just got back from the dealer where I put a deposit down on a new Sapphire 800. They just got it in yesterday! Got a deal that I'm very happy with that includes almost all the factory farkles except the side cases and hand guards (wanted the Barkbusters). Triumphs website is showing an accessory promo for the top case, heated grips, and tall windshield that we're still waiting to confirm, but hoping to pick it up in a couple of weeks!

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Old 02-23-2013, 01:41 PM   #15985
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Congratulations, couple weeks is a long time.
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Old 02-23-2013, 02:13 PM   #15986
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Congratulations, couple weeks is a long time.
Yeah, but the weather's still been somewhat crappy. Been trying to sneak in a test ride for a couple of weeks, now, but it never worked out. I'd pick it up next week, but I'm waiting on my tax return for some cash to put down. On the downside, though, I also realized as I dropped my return in the mail that I dated my signature 2012. I hope that doesn't delay it any!
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Old 02-24-2013, 12:57 AM   #15987
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Triumphs website is showing an accessory promo for the top case, heated grips, and tall windshield that we're still waiting to confirm,
Yes they're advertising that in the motorcycle papers over here. It says ;
"700 free accessories. Also available on the XC.
From Feb 1st to June 30th the 800s come with a long list of extras free, including : Top box and back rest pad, Sliding carriage, Heated grips and Adjustable high screen."
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Old 02-24-2013, 05:39 AM   #15988
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Yep. I saw the offer on Triumph's US site yesterday morning, and getting almost $1k worth of free accessories is what clinched my decision.
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/mo...rs/extra/25839

The only problem is that,even though it's on the US site, it's listed w/ British pounds for the monetary value, so we're wondering if it was just a screw-up on the website. On the other hand, I'm fairly certain it wasn't there earlier last week (even though it was supposedly available since Feb 1). Since the dealer didn't have any communications about it, and the site is questionable, we're not sure if the offer is valid, so I have to wait for the dealer to check it out.
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Old 02-24-2013, 06:59 AM   #15989
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Triumph Tiger COMFORT RIDER 3D MESH SEAT

What's the word on the seat? Anyone try it on the Tiger 800?

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Old 02-24-2013, 07:12 AM   #15990
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Read the fine print " is subject to purchase of full price motorcycle." So no dickering allowed, I guess
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