ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Beasts
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-25-2013, 02:46 AM   #16456
blacktiger
Tigers R great.
 
blacktiger's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: St.Leonards on Sea, England.
Oddometer: 3,605
Quote:
Originally Posted by swimmer View Post
It's extremely complicated, you wouldn't understand.
Obviously.
__________________
2002 black Tiger955i, 72000 miles and counting.
2012 black Tiger800XC, 40000 miles and counting.
blacktiger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:19 AM   #16457
dwoodward
Beastly Adventurer
 
dwoodward's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Pacific NorthWet, Napa Valley North
Oddometer: 5,257
Quote:
Originally Posted by bross View Post
The only other bike in your list that I personally would even consider would be the Ducati. KTMs are fun bikes with very good suspension but they are maintenance whores and have had a few niggling problems.
So... a Ducati would be better?

OP: Coming here and asking "Triumph, or something else" is like asking a starving man if he'd like to eat or go watch a movie...

The T800 motor is a hoot, and won't risk your license quite as much as a Ducati (or KTM). Although it will do 60 in first gear.

As for touring all day... IMO, the Tiger needs a better seat. I've done a 600+ mile day on mine, two-up. After that, 200 miles a day was the rule.
dwoodward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:35 AM   #16458
Kawidad
Beastly Adventurer
 
Kawidad's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Central Coast, Cal
Oddometer: 4,674
And, speaking of seats................



Anybody try or have any feedback on the new Moose seat for the tiger????
__________________
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal
(Who watches the watchers)
Kawidad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 10:46 AM   #16459
TxLoneRider
Gnarly Adventurer
 
TxLoneRider's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Tejas
Oddometer: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwoodward View Post
As for touring all day... IMO, the Tiger needs a better seat. I've done a 600+ mile day on mine, two-up. After that, 200 miles a day was the rule.
Again, it amazes me the differences between person to person. So far, riding solo, the stock ergonomics have served me well, with 3 600+ mile days.

In fact I am debating if I am going to even change the wind screen. There are times that I would like a bit more protection, but mostly in head or cross winds. And I don't know if a new screen would do much???

Any thoughts??
TxLoneRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:02 AM   #16460
dwoodward
Beastly Adventurer
 
dwoodward's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Pacific NorthWet, Napa Valley North
Oddometer: 5,257
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxLoneRider View Post
Again, it amazes me the differences between person to person. So far, riding solo, the stock ergonomics have served me well, with 3 600+ mile days.
There is a distinct possibility I'm fatter or thinner than you, weather conditions, and what those 600 miles are made up of. Later in the year I did a couple of longer (timewise) days escorting bicycle races, and I was fine. (I was also moving around more than a 600 mile drone on the interstate.)

Quote:
In fact I am debating if I am going to even change the wind screen. There are times that I would like a bit more protection, but mostly in head or cross winds. And I don't know if a new screen would do much???

Any thoughts??
More protection? Can't help you. I went for less buffeting and put a Street Trple flyscreen on mine.
dwoodward is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:10 AM   #16461
XCRider803
Loftin' the wheel
 
XCRider803's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte area
Oddometer: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by dwoodward View Post
it will do 60 in first gear
And therein lies the only little thing I wish was different on the Tiger, lower first.

Other than that I'm almost shocked how well the suspension, seat and screen are for me. What a bike..
XCRider803 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 11:34 AM   #16462
T
 
T's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: DE
Oddometer: 5,183
Quote:
Originally Posted by TxLoneRider View Post
Again, it amazes me the differences between person to person. So far, riding solo, the stock ergonomics have served me well, with 3 600+ mile days.

In fact I am debating if I am going to even change the wind screen. There are times that I would like a bit more protection, but mostly in head or cross winds. And I don't know if a new screen would do much???

Any thoughts??
I'm 6'-0" @170lbs. Stock setup is good. The seat on my 05 955i Tiger was a bit more comfy (IMO) but the wind was about the same.

I had an 06 Strom before the Tigers. That seat was torturous and the wind came from every direction.
__________________
Inconsequential Adventurer
T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 12:07 PM   #16463
XCRider803
Loftin' the wheel
 
XCRider803's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Location: Charlotte area
Oddometer: 852
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclingtom View Post
I had an 06 Strom before the Tigers. That seat was torturous and the wind came from every direction.
I had a K6 Wee, the engineers designed that seat and screen to purposely torture you... I couldn't go more that 30 minutes before squirming around on the stocker. Any longer produce serious pain ..
XCRider803 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 12:09 PM   #16464
TxLoneRider
Gnarly Adventurer
 
TxLoneRider's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Tejas
Oddometer: 343
Quote:
Originally Posted by cyclingtom View Post
I'm 6'-0" @170lbs. Stock setup is good. The seat on my 05 955i Tiger was a bit more comfy (IMO) but the wind was about the same.

I had an 06 Strom before the Tigers. That seat was torturous and the wind came from every direction.
I had a '09 KLR650, and the butt floss was replaced before I left my home county.

For me, 5'11", 270'ish lbs. Don't have a lot of padding on my arse. I have pretty broad shoulders, so on almost any bike I grab a lot of wind. And I find that when I have had larger windscreens, my shoulders catch a lot more turbulent air.

On most of my sport'ish bikes, including the KLR, I had ZG Double Bubbles, and they put less air on the helmet, but over all left the air a lot cleaner.

As this subject goes, more than most, YMMV
TxLoneRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 04:41 PM   #16465
firebrick
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Location: Iowa
Oddometer: 896
I have a dealer offering a 2012 800xc for 11,300. It has 300 miles but is titled as new. That price includes everything except I would have to pay state tax. Now that is about the same price as some 2011's in the flea market with >10k miles but a bunch of add ons. If you were going to buy would you go "new" or used? Any difference on the years 11,12,13? Thanks.
__________________
2009 buddy 125
firebrick is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 04:50 PM   #16466
browneye
PIN IT & BANG GEARS
 
browneye's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Oddometer: 5,070
Quote:
Originally Posted by firebrick View Post
I have a dealer offering a 2012 800xc for 11,300. It has 300 miles but is titled as new. That price includes everything except I would have to pay state tax. Now that is about the same price as some 2011's in the flea market with >10k miles but a bunch of add ons. If you were going to buy would you go "new" or used? Any difference on the years 11,12,13? Thanks.
For an XC, that's a good price. My '12 was $12,900 with everything, plus another $600 in oem accessories.

As far as new or used, that has to be your call. If I can buy used and save a bunch I will usually do that. Hopefully it has been broken in properly and serviced, at least oil changes.

All models are the same...just slight trim and paint differences. Some of the early ones had ABS as optional, then I think all bikes coming to the US had it standard. It's was a grand when it was an option.

You might get them to throw in a center stand with it to sweeten the deal for a previously titled bike. And change the oil.

EDIT: BTW, add-ons on used bikes are worth maybe 50 cents on the dollar, and only if they are something you really want. Don't forget about transportation costs if buying out of your area.
__________________
Chris Brown - "The Browneye"
"Without Motorcycles, People Live Very Boring Lives." - Malcolm Smith
Camp Nelson 2014 RR Laguna Seca 2012 RR Sequoia 3-Day Campout Thanksgiving 2012
browneye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 06:14 PM   #16467
cug
--
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Sunny California
Oddometer: 4,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by browneye View Post
EDIT: BTW, add-ons on used bikes are worth maybe 50 cents on the dollar, and only if they are something you really want. Don't forget about transportation costs if buying out of your area.
I wouldn't throw this out like this because it's plain not correct. I've generally sold my stuff between 60 and 70% of the original price, no matter whether I sold them with the bike or separately. I just normally say - hey, if I sell them all to you with the bike, you're getting them for 60% flat and can resell the items you don't like. Or you're getting it without any goodies. Never had a problem with that. But so far I only sold "high resale bikes", no idea how well this will work with the Tiger. That's part of why I decided to keep mine for the time being - apart from it being an awesome bike in general.

And yes, sometimes I'm stubborn and throw things away instead of selling them for a price that I think is plain too cheap. Might be stupid, but that's just me. I don't like people taking too much advantage of me. Some is fine, getting audacious isn't, then the old stubborn self kicks in and I either keep it or throw it away for nobody to use.
cug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 08:37 PM   #16468
browneye
PIN IT & BANG GEARS
 
browneye's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Location: Orange County, CA
Oddometer: 5,070
Quote:
Originally Posted by cug View Post
I wouldn't throw this out like this because it's plain not correct. I've generally sold my stuff between 60 and 70% of the original price, no matter whether I sold them with the bike or separately. I just normally say - hey, if I sell them all to you with the bike, you're getting them for 60% flat and can resell the items you don't like.
>snip
Now you're splitting hairs.

You're shit is worth more to you because you picked it. Doesn't mean someone else wants it. That's all I'm sayin. The OP was asking about used bikes and what they're worth when they have lots of extra parts on them. And I've always said, buy the bike, not the 'extras', unless they are what you really want. I think we're saying the same thing but you bumped your ballpark value 10%.
__________________
Chris Brown - "The Browneye"
"Without Motorcycles, People Live Very Boring Lives." - Malcolm Smith
Camp Nelson 2014 RR Laguna Seca 2012 RR Sequoia 3-Day Campout Thanksgiving 2012
browneye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2013, 08:41 PM   #16469
cug
--
 
Joined: May 2009
Location: Sunny California
Oddometer: 4,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by browneye View Post
You're shit is worth more to you because you picked it. Doesn't mean someone else wants it. That's all I'm sayin.
Nope. It's worth what I get for it, not what I paid for it. And so far I've never sold anything below 60% of what I paid for it.
cug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2013, 04:21 AM   #16470
killbilly
Adventurer
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Location: DC
Oddometer: 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by firebrick View Post
I have a dealer offering a 2012 800xc for 11,300. It has 300 miles but is titled as new. That price includes everything except I would have to pay state tax. Now that is about the same price as some 2011's in the flea market with >10k miles but a bunch of add ons. If you were going to buy would you go "new" or used? Any difference on the years 11,12,13? Thanks.
Something to consider is that if it's new, then the warranty starts from the day you take delivery. That might be worth having. I'm guessing with the 300 mi it was an owner or store demo unit? I'm considering doing something similar right now.

You'll take a depreciation hit no matter what. My unscientific analysis, based on price tracking, seems to be about $1000 per year on average, although the Tiger 800-series hasn't been around long enough to bottom out on price. I suspect that base-model Roadies will bottom out around $5000 in another 5 years, and XCs for a bit more.
killbilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014