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Old 04-11-2013, 10:23 AM   #16621
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Do you guys think it's okay to step on the foot-peg and step over the seat. I'm not sure if the kick-stand can hold my 200 lbs continuously putting all my weight on it.
Plenty strong enough. It's what I do when I've got luggage on board.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:33 AM   #16622
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I know that new Triumphs are nothing like the old ones in terms of build quality. I also know that I got very used to my Suzuki's absolute reliability. Indestructible. And I'm too old for headaches.

So, while I don't expect the Triumph to be on a par with the the DL in terms of dependability, I'm wondering how much of a tradeoff there'll be. My local dealer has a questionable rep, and the guy who's gonna let me test the bike (from whom I'll buy and whose service dept I'll use, for that reason, ) is a little over an hour away.
Go work in a big-4 dealership and you'll see plenty of cases where Japanese stuff isn't "all that". I can tell you, Suzuki's warranty coverage is the worst of the Japanese manufacturers. They don't want to pay for anything.

Buy your Triumph, with complete confidence.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:34 AM   #16623
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The XC bars feel a lot different compared to the roadie. They're wider too. There have been a at least a couple of riders that just could never get comfortable, one had back aches, and sold their bikes. Maybe they had back trouble before they bought the bike.
I've said all along that the bars are too straight to be comfortable. They made my hands go numb because of the angle they set my wrists at. So I changed them for some Rentals with more sweep. Pt# 615-01. (WARNING :- it's not a straight swap as I needed to design and have made some clamps to suit) Perfect, all day comfort now.
I believe that either TEX or R1200GS bars will also do the job and are the same diameter as the OE bars.
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Old 04-11-2013, 10:45 AM   #16624
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Plenty strong enough. It's what I do when I've got luggage on board.
Thanks. Yeah, it feels like it holds my weight pretty well when I step over but wasn't sure how it would handle it long-term.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:36 PM   #16625
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Ok, I know this has been has been asked a million times, so lets make it a million and one. I was thinking about getting the Tiger 800xc or the Explorer/xc. 800xc is more nimble, better on gas and lighter. The explorer has great horse power and would probably be better on the freeway. %90 of my rides will be on paved roads, but I would love to get a little dirty. Besides price, what are your experiences and or suggestions? Please stay on topic, no pissing matches.

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Both the 800XC and 800 Roadie will be better then the Explorer off road. You've already mentioned the main differences, price, power and weight. The added electronics on the Explorer are kinda cool. Would love to have cruise control and traction control. The show stopper for me on the Explorer would be the additional weight. I've had a top heavy bike before and wouldn't want one again. Best of luck deciding, all are great bikes, it just depends what you want to do with it.
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:11 PM   #16626
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That's good to know. I'm no mechanic, but I can pretty much figure anything out. Are you just following the owner's manual for "DO IT YOURSELF" maintainance and is there anything I should give special attention to??
I do all the maintenance myself, and have followed the factory-recommended maintenance schedule for the most part. Only thing the dealer's done is some minor recall work.

Nothing in particular that needs special attention.

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:24 PM   #16627
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Tiger XC or Explorer?

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Ok, I know this has been has been asked a million times, so lets make it a million and one. I was thinking about getting the Tiger 800xc or the Explorer/xc. 800xc is more nimble, better on gas and lighter. The explorer has great horse power and would probably be better on the freeway. %90 of my rides will be on paved roads, but I would love to get a little dirty. Besides price, what are your experiences and or suggestions? Please stay on topic, no pissing matches.

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Wow...first post on ADV...on the Tiger thread.

But why do you intro yourself making demands about pissing matches? WTF???


The extra 100lbs and extra couple of grand put the Explorer out of the picture for me. I doubt I could even pickup a loaded 800...but I digress.

I initially thought I was a T800 roadie buyer, but settled on the XC for plusher suspension and the option to easily travel dirt roads. Our local ADV riders just love that shit so one better be ready for it. The XC is great on road and works off too.
Other bikes on my shortlist:
GS
990
Stelvio
S10

I wanted something the wife and I could do weekenders with as well. The XC offers more than enough to do that. Were it not for finding the Tiger I would probably be riding a Super Tenere. After 5K miles on the tiger I would probably choose Explorer over S10. IMO Triumph is more refined than Yamaha without saying there's anything wrong with the Tenere. It's just a really heavy bike, especially for a smaller, older, rider. (like me. LOL)

The seat is way comfy on the Explorer, and who can fault shaft drive. But it's a different kind of bike than the 800. So are you a GS guy or a mid-ADV bike guy? Mine sees about 75-80% street, but the times it doesn't is when the XC really shines. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it for freeway either, it'll cruise at way over limit speeds all day long fully loaded if that's what you want to do.

What do your buddies ride?
Are you planning a lot of 2-up?
What are your previous bikes?
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:42 PM   #16628
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Got an email from Amazon today. CruzTools RoadTech M3 is on sale for $57. The EU Speedkit is $26. Is it worth replacing the OEM kit with either?
http://cruztools.com/products/kitsmetric.html

Anyone know if the M3 roll will fit in a Tool Tube?
I have to say, the 2 items I have from Cruz Tools have left me very disappointed. In addition, there is nothing in that toolkit that you can't put together for much cheaper.

YMMV
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Old 04-11-2013, 03:53 PM   #16629
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O..................... The explorer has great horse power and would probably be better on the freeway. ................
The Exp may have great HP but the 800 still has good HP. I ride mine back and forth to work most every day on the xway and it has zero problems. The only real problem is the avoidance of a performance award.

I mean heck. My BMW R1150RT only had 96 ponies and a heck of a lot more weight. No one every doubted that it had enough to survive on the freeway.

I plan to ride this thing to Cally this year from Alabama 2up and fully loaded. I anticipate zero problems.
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Old 04-11-2013, 08:21 PM   #16630
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Question Tiger X/C

Yep, I'm too lazy to look for the answer. So how much room do you have on your X/C? Riding 2 up, is it crowded? Do you have plenty of room to move around? So I'm about 235lbs, my wife soesn't ride (but I'm always hopeful), but when I have had pillions on the Wee, there is lots of room, it's comfortable 2 up on the seat. so the X/C looks like a smaller seat. Would 2 up becomfortable for say a 235 lb rider, and a 150 lb pillion?
I'm not 19 yrs old anymore, and I like my comfort.

Just haveing trouble comming to grips with laying out about $7000 to make the switch.
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:19 PM   #16631
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Yep, I'm too lazy to look for the answer.
As you are too lazy to look for the answer anyways I'm not going to answer ...

But last time I checked it had a pillion seat. Seems to be made for a second person on the bike ...
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Old 04-11-2013, 09:46 PM   #16632
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As you are too lazy to look for the answer anyways I'm not going to answer ...

But last time I checked it had a pillion seat. Seems to be made for a second person on the bike ...
+1 on what cug said.

If you are too lazy to do the search (geez, yes it is very taxing to push the keys on a keyboard isn't it!).....then you are probably too f**ken lazy to go for a ride once you get one.


No wonder mods and forum owners get pissed off with people clogging up the system with repeat questions because they can't be bothered reading through the relevant threads (which other forum members often put a lot of time and effort in to posting in the first place, just so people could read and gather information for themselves).

Get on your Wee with your Mrs. and go to a dealer and sit your lazy butt on one to see if it fits you or not.

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Old 04-12-2013, 04:05 PM   #16633
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LOL. Wow guys....

So, it's $7000 from what to what? Wee to XC?

I had a 1000 wee and I would say it had a little more room. The big BMW and RoadGlide both have huge room for two.


My wife isn't a petite...the two of us are about 350 together, maybe a bit more without getting into too much detail. We traded off the Versys for the Tiger because it's so much better for two. A super tenere is even better. Probably a GS too. I just didn't want that much bulk in a bike for the few times we did ride together.

There's some good info in this thread, and I've posted a number of times with pics on my pillion seat mod and backrest. It works really well for a couple of hundred miles a day.


Admittedly the search function on this site is rather poor, but Google works just fine. Just use this syntax:

site:advrider.com searchterm

For example, searching for 2-up info, if you plug in: site:advrider.com XC passenger - you get a ton of links to this thread with specific posts about riding 2-up. You could also search for 2-up, or 2 up, or two up. If you include something about the tiger it will narrow the results for you as well.
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:36 PM   #16634
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Admittedly the search function on this site is rather poor, but Google works just fine. Just use this syntax:

site:advrider.com searchterm

For example, searching for 2-up info, if you plug in: site:advrider.com XC passenger - you get a ton of links to this thread with specific posts about riding 2-up. You could also search for 2-up, or 2 up, or two up. If you include something about the tiger it will narrow the results for you as well.
And to narrow it down to the specific thread use this syntax:

search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=599070"

The inurl will limit your search to this thread only. Just replace the "t=..." with whatever the thread number is for the thread your interested in. You can see the t= value on the first page of the thread.

I keep a text file on my desktop with the threads I frequent and need to search. Here's a couple lines of it...

Triumph Tiger 800: search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=599070"

The Yamaha Super Tenere XT1200Z Big Thread: search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=545850"

the DR650 thread: search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=135295"

Minimalist Touring Thread (250cc and under): search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=t=201349"
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:26 PM   #16635
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search terms site:advrider.com inurl:"t=599070"
That's pretty cool, didn't know that one. Creating Launchbar shortcut right now ... ;-)

If someone is on a Mac, is using Launchbar (if not, you should try it), you can open the index and add a Search Template.

Just give it a name (like Tiger 800 thread) and in the details put:

HTML Code:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site:advrider.com%20inurl:t=599070%20*
Then when you use Launchbar with your keyboard shortcut, you can just type "Tiger", select the newly created template, type in your search string and you're good to go. I already love it.
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