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Old 05-03-2013, 12:42 PM   #16831
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:46 PM   #16832
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Fuel gauge

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I've replaced my fuelgauge becouse the contacts were broken (dont know how to pronounce it in English, but the floater is connected to a rotating piece of plastic with two pins sticking out and those pins make contact with some small resistors). In my case the pins were bent backward a bit and could not easily be fixed without damaging the rest of the gauge. The replacement however was a piece of cake, just do it whenever there is not much fuel left in the tank offcourse. Plug & play.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:12 PM   #16833
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Just an old dirtbike subject, but I put my rear axle nut on the brake side. That way if it hits a rock then it will get tighter instead of loose.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:42 PM   #16834
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Triumph 800 XC Toolkit Woes

Received my brand new 800XC in November 12 – upgrading? from a BMW R1200R. Not quite the finish of the Beemer but a damned sight more spirited, and I won’t be handing it back any time soon.

Tool Kit – I would expect the standard tool kit to be sufficient to do roadside basics – take a wheel off (puncture), adjust the chain and tighten various other bolts and fasteners that work loose from time to time. Most factory supplied tool kits are rudimentary and not well built – we all understand that I guess.

Fortunately I did not have any occasion to use the bike’s toolkit as most things were attended to under warranty (engine leaks) or from my home garage.

But reading through various threads re toolkits I decided to take the wheels of to fit new tyres, just using the bike’s supplied toolkit – a rude and sobering job as it turned out.
1) The chain adjusters on my bike are 12mm bolts, locked up with a 13mm lock nut – something went wrong with the thinking process at Hinckley as the open ended spanners are 11mm and 12mm.

2) The 27mm rear axle nut could not be undone without severe application of my 100kg mass, landing on the rather limited spanner arm.

3) But the one thing I had not checked was the front axle – it is screwed in with a 17mm hexagonal key – unlike my other bikes that have a hex nut. There was none in the tool kit and even the workshop manual makes scant reference to it and does not denote the size. Trawling though these good places gave me the size but I considered that if I did not pack the key, or lost it or for whatever reason, it was not with me and the bike, the chances of finding, borrowing or buying one on the road was fairly limited and without it you are stuffed!

So I obtained a 17mm hex key from an engineering supplies shop, cut about 25mm or so off the end and Loctited it into the axle socket. Now I can use a spanner, shifting spanner, or in an emergency, pipe tongs or pliers – these things are more commonly found out in the field than a 17mm hex key.

Trust this may be of use to other Triumph owners – and I will be updating the kit with proper gear!


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Old 05-03-2013, 04:15 PM   #16835
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Received my brand new 800XC in November 12 – upgrading? from a BMW R1200R. Not quite the finish of the Beemer but a damned sight more spirited, and I won’t be handing it back any time soon.

Tool Kit – I would expect the standard tool kit to be sufficient to do roadside basics – take a wheel off (puncture), adjust the chain and tighten various other bolts and fasteners that work loose from time to time. Most factory supplied tool kits are rudimentary and not well built – we all understand that I guess.

Fortunately I did not have any occasion to use the bike’s toolkit as most things were attended to under warranty (engine leaks) or from my home garage.

But reading through various threads re toolkits I decided to take the wheels of to fit new tyres, just using the bike’s supplied toolkit – a rude and sobering job as it turned out.
1) The chain adjusters on my bike are 12mm bolts, locked up with a 13mm lock nut – something went wrong with the thinking process at Hinckley as the open ended spanners are 11mm and 12mm.

2) The 27mm rear axle nut could not be undone without severe application of my 100kg mass, landing on the rather limited spanner arm.

3) But the one thing I had not checked was the front axle – it is screwed in with a 27mm hexagonal key – unlike my other bikes that have a hex nut. There was none in the tool kit and even the workshop manual makes scant reference to it and does not denote the size. Trawling though these good places gave me the size but I considered that if I did not pack the key, or lost it or for whatever reason, it was not with me and the bike, the chances of finding, borrowing or buying one on the road was fairly limited and without it you are stuffed!

So I obtained a 27mm hex key from an engineering supplies shop, cut about 25mm or so off the end and Loctited it into the axle socket. Now I can use a spanner, shifting spanner, or in an emergency, pipe tongs or pliers – these things are more commonly found out in the field than a 27mm hex key.

Trust this may be of use to other Triumph owners – and I will be updating the kit with proper gear!
I've never dreamed of using the supplied toolkit to do *any* work on the bike. They are the worst tools I've ever seen. I just put together my own toolkit with what's needed and carry that. Then I know I have the right tool and at least a tool I can count on. Unless you ride an old GoldWing, a friend had one and holy crap when he unrolled his Honda supplied tool roll, it was like an instant popup Snap On truck with everything you could ever want.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:02 PM   #16836
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[QUOTE=paulj;21327380]Received my brand new 800XC in November 12 – upgrading? from a BMW R1200R. Not quite the finish of the Beemer but a damned sight more spirited, and I won’t be handing it back any time soon.

Tool Kit – I would expect the standard tool kit to be sufficient to do roadside basics – take a wheel off (puncture), adjust the chain and tighten various other bolts and fasteners that work loose from time to time. Most factory supplied tool kits are rudimentary and not well built – we all understand that I guess.

Fortunately I did not have any occasion to use the bike’s toolkit as most things were attended to under warranty (engine leaks) or from my home garage.

But reading through various threads re toolkits I decided to take the wheels of to fit new tyres, just using the bike’s supplied toolkit – a rude and sobering job as it turned out.
1) The chain adjusters on my bike are 12mm bolts, locked up with a 13mm lock nut – something went wrong with the thinking process at Hinckley as the open ended spanners are 11mm and 12mm.

2) The 27mm rear axle nut could not be undone without severe application of my 100kg mass, landing on the rather limited spanner arm.

3) But the one thing I had not checked was the front axle – it is screwed in with a 27mm hexagonal key – unlike my other bikes that have a hex nut. There was none in the tool kit and even the workshop manual makes scant reference to it and does not denote the size. Trawling though these good places gave me the size but I considered that if I did not pack the key, or lost it or for whatever reason, it was not with me and the bike, the chances of finding, borrowing or buying one on the road was fairly limited and without it you are stuffed!

So I obtained a 27mm hex key from an engineering supplies shop, cut about 25mm or so off the end and Loctited it into the axle socket. Now I can use a spanner, shifting spanner, or in an emergency, pipe tongs or pliers – these things are more commonly found out in the field than a 27mm hex key.

Trust this may be of use to other Triumph owners – and I will be updating the kit with proper gear!

Good info; it helps to do a trial run on most roadside situations to see what tools you may need more than what the "Factory Kit" supplies.
They seem to be thrown together and lacking of real necessities.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:15 PM   #16837
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Yep, we all knew the tools were shit...but the missing front axle tool was an eye-opener. Found that the night I took it home and gave it the once over. Motion-Pro alloy thing-a-ma-bob for $35. What a rip off.

No flats in 6K miles. Nothing really, never been back to the dealer except for one oil filter and now I mail order those too. The Hi-Flo Filtro one is fine.

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Old 05-03-2013, 05:46 PM   #16838
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Isn't it a 17mm (like what is stamped on the spanner in the photo) rather than a 27mm?
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:15 PM   #16839
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Isn't it a 17mm (like what is stamped on the spanner in the photo) rather than a 27mm?
- thanks - of course it is! My bad - I'm too old to have much wisdom left - edited the post.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:25 PM   #16840
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I just use the one that came in the meagre tool kit. Do up the nut with it and you should be able to undo it with it. I've never, in 40 years, bothered to torque an axle nut to spec.
I'm with ya, maybe even 41 years.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:41 PM   #16841
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I've never, in 40 years, bothered to torque an axle nut to spec.
I use the torque wrench at home with the proper nut because it's much easier than with the normal wrench ...

Otherwise: same here, I don't generally bother with the torque wrench on these.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:19 AM   #16842
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2) The 27mm rear axle nut could not be undone without severe application of my 100kg mass, landing on the rather limited spanner arm.

3)
So I obtained a 17mm hex key from an engineering supplies shop, cut about 25mm or so off the end and Loctited it into the axle socket.
Two questions:-
Re 2, did you not use the extension tube?
Re 3, Why didn't you just keep that bit of Hex in the tool kit? That's what I do.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:26 AM   #16843
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I use the torque wrench at home with the proper nut because it's much easier than with the normal wrench ...

Otherwise: same here, I don't generally bother with the torque wrench on these.
My point really cug, was that if you torque it at home to some huge value, you may struggle when out in the field. So, if you use the supplied tool to tighten the nut at home you'll be able to undo it as well. I learnt that years ago with my car when the wheel nuts had been done up with the tyre fitters gun, I needed an extension bar the get them undone again. Always tighten with the tools you take with you.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:12 AM   #16844
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I bought one of these from this vendor on the FleaBay. It is a really nice piece of kit, especially for the money.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-TIGE...03a08f&vxp=mtr



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Old 05-04-2013, 07:19 AM   #16845
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I bought one of these from this vendor on the FleaBay. It is a really nice piece of kit, especially for the money.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIUMPH-TIGE...03a08f&vxp=mtr



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Do you have it in your hands. Does it fit correctly. Both axle and wrench. Good hard steel that wont round out?

Looks like a nice item.
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