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Old 06-24-2013, 07:26 AM   #17401
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you use grease on your chain? or are you just talking about normal chain lube. after the lube is dry it shouldn't fling around. on the o-ring chains you don't need much. just enough to keep the thing from rusting away. i don't want to get into another chain lube discussion... but some riders say WD-40 is all you need for an o-ring chain. search the web and you will find many opinions.
also, i dont expect it to stay clean. its on a motorcycle after all...
Well, at the moment I'm testing a Loobman chain oiler using regular engine oil. I Find that any bags mounted on the rack get dirty really quick (okay might be oiling too much I know). I dont mind getting my hands dirty but to have your hands covered with dirty engine oil everytime you get something from the box isnt working for me.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:30 AM   #17402
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From my expierence, WD-40 on a KLR chain every few hundred miles and again after pressure washing the chain got me 20,000 miles. I then replaced the chain and both sprockets.

I have been using WD-40 on the Tiger, but its flinging onto the hard parts.

It didn't fling as much on the KLR.
Sigh. WD-40 is not a lubricant; any resemblance or behavior similar to that of a lubricant is purely coincidental.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:31 AM   #17403
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Well, at the moment I'm testing a Loobman chain oiler using regular engine oil. I Find that any bags mounted on the rack get dirty really quick (okay might be oiling too much I know). I dont mind getting my hands dirty but to have your hands covered with dirty engine oil everytime you get something from the box isnt working for me.
yeah I recommend you stop this, like, immediately. that oil can get on your tires, disk brakes, etc... causing major issues to your health after you can't stop or slide into a ditch. you don't need that much lube for an o-ring chain! I'm sure others will chime in too.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:33 AM   #17404
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From my expierence, WD-40 on a KLR chain every few hundred miles and again after pressure washing the chain got me 20,000 miles. I then replaced the chain and both sprockets.

I have been using WD-40 on the Tiger, but its flinging onto the hard parts.

It didn't fling as much on the KLR.
if i use wd-40 its followed by a wire brush to clean and get rid of rust. this would help your flinging issue.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:34 AM   #17405
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Sigh. WD-40 is not a lubricant; any resemblance or behavior similar to that of a lubricant is purely coincidental.

I agree that its not a lubricant.

But WD-40 is inexpensive and 20,000 is ok with me.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:47 AM   #17406
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Well, at the moment I'm testing a Loobman chain oiler using regular engine oil. I Find that any bags mounted on the rack get dirty really quick (okay might be oiling too much I know). I dont mind getting my hands dirty but to have your hands covered with dirty engine oil everytime you get something from the box isnt working for me.
I'm using a loobman too. I originally used gear oil in the hopes that it wouldn't fling, but it didn't seem to matter. I have switched to ATF due to the high detergent attributes, which makes the chain virtually self cleaning.

It's another subject altogether, but I'm unimpressed with the loobman. Another case of "you get what you pay for". The theory is simple enough, but it dumps too much oil in too short of a period of time, and you can wind up with a nicely lubricated rear tire. Assuming my new handlebars fix the last of my ergonomics issues I will get a Scott E-oiler.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:48 AM   #17407
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I agree that its not a lubricant.

But WD-40 is enexpensive and 20,000 is ok with me.
I would say your in the right here as long as it's an o-ring. In this case WD-40 is just cleaning/ keeping the rust to a minimum.
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Old 06-24-2013, 07:50 AM   #17408
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I agree that its not a lubricant.

But WD-40 is enexpensive and 20,000 is ok with me.
Fair enough. Actually, given I normally replace a chain because it's rusty before it's worn out, WD-40 may make as much as mine, which is 75% cheerful neglect, 20% semi-focused maintenance, and 5% self-flagellation over the cheerful neglect...
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:11 AM   #17409
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What about the barkbuster handlebar inserts? Do they interfere with the heated grip wiring that runs inside the handlebars?
Sorry I didn't realise you wanted to use OEM heated grips. So no, those inserts will not work.
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Old 06-24-2013, 09:50 AM   #17410
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I will get a Scott E-oiler.
I am not going to pollute this thread with chain oiler topic but if you really want the best chain oiler get a pro-oiler. I have about 100k miles on mine (4 different bikes).
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:00 AM   #17411
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I am not going to pollute this thread with chain oiler topic but if you really want the best chain oiler get a pro-oiler. I have about 100k miles on mine (4 different bikes).
That's the one that requires a NASA engineer to program, right?
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Old 06-24-2013, 10:09 AM   #17412
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That's the one that requires a NASA engineer to program, right?
I am sure it might be more involved than the others but it's not really that complicated. Since you tend not to have to adjust the programmed settings (you can adjust the rate up or down simply on the fly for changing conditions if needed) at all once you get it set up it's sort of a one time hassle - until you change bikes.

I am not one to just promote something simply because its the one I bought trying to justify to myself why I bought something, I really think it's the best oiler available. If you contemplate getting one I'd be happy to have a discussion about it offline if no one else wants to hear about it and you can't find the info you are looking for elsewhere.
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:03 AM   #17413
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If you contemplate getting one I'd be happy to have a discussion about it offline if no one else wants to hear about it and you can't find the info you are looking for elsewhere.
I'm at least curious in how involved the installation is and what the necessary steps are.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:13 PM   #17414
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I'm at least curious in how involved the installation is and what the necessary steps are.
OK, I'll try to put together a pictorial of my installation and why I am such a fan of this particular device.
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Old 06-24-2013, 12:25 PM   #17415
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here is what i accomplished today! i'm way happier with this than that shotty tool tube! also rode in the pouring rain on these dirty north dakota highways. it looks like i rode through 100 muddy puddles.


Looks great! I want to add a small Pelican as well. How did you mount yours?

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