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Old 11-08-2010, 10:31 AM   #1741
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I can't believe welded on foot pegs will stop anybody buying this bike. I can't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over it to be honest. The're welded on - so what? Don't like it, cut them off, simple. You can bet someone, right now, is figuring out a kit for bolt on passenger pegs.
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Plus with engine guards/crash bars on they will take the brunt of a drop.
Even if they bolted on they would still be solid to the frame of the bike and still transfer energy to the frame. Yes you could have unbolted them and left them off, but most people would leave them on unless they never carried a passager ever.
Would be nice if they bolted on but the real thing that needed to be done is to have the subframe removable.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:53 AM   #1742
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Anyway - a more comprehensive review of the 800 road version..

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...800/15497.html
Thanks for posting. Nice to read that Triumph reckons a 250-mile range out of the 19 liter tank.

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Old 11-08-2010, 10:54 AM   #1743
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Also interesting is the discussion of engine power:

So with the engine so understressed, it ought to be capable of good gas mileage, not to mention excellent longevity.

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You forgot to mention a very important side benefit. A quality 3 into 1 aftermarket header combined with full exhaust ought to make this one barking mad engine.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:02 AM   #1744
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Would be nice if they bolted on but the real thing that needed to be done is to have the subframe removable.
On the other hand, that welded-on subframe is by far the stoutest I've ever seen on a bike, so it's going to be a whole lot harder to bend than, say, a V-Strom subframe.

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Old 11-08-2010, 11:07 AM   #1745
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You forgot to mention a very important side benefit. A quality 3 into 1 aftermarket header combined with full exhaust ought to make this one barking mad engine.
Not to mention, think of the weight savings...
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:12 AM   #1746
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So how do you think this bike will compare to the 990 Adventure in the Power and off-road department?
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:15 AM   #1747
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On the other hand, that welded-on subframe is by far the stoutest I've ever seen on a bike, so it's going to be a whole lot harder to bend than, say, a V-Strom subframe.

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agreeed! I think by the time someone has enough damage on the subframe to warrant repairs or a new frame, the rest of the bike would warrant it to be totaled anyway.

I don't read as many F800 posts as i used to since they are not in Beasts now, but i don't recall a lot of posts complaining of bikes being totaled or ruined because of the non removable pillion pegs.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:18 AM   #1748
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So how do you think this bike will compare to the 990 Adventure in the Power and off-road department?
Differential similarities would be my guess.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:21 AM   #1749
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You forgot to mention a very important side benefit. A quality 3 into 1 aftermarket header combined with full exhaust ought to make this one barking mad engine.
Ya i bet engine mods like cams etc.. will be a poplular things as well since this engine is in a low state of tune.

mmm... I think the life expectancy of a set of TKC's with 95hp will be low enough!!
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:08 PM   #1750
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I can't believe welded on foot pegs will stop anybody buying this bike. I can't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over it to be honest. The're welded on - so what? Don't like it, cut them off, simple. You can bet someone, right now, is figuring out a kit for bolt on passenger pegs.
Exactly. Easy enough to build a kit that would use a slip over "sleeve" of the cut off standard tube to attach a removable pass. peg. Drill through and use a bolt to attach new piece where it slips over. Would tear away in a crash doing no damage to main frame or rear sub-frame. Two minutes to remove when not needed. (remove through bolt) Simple, elegant and cheap fix. Could work.

Early ride reports look promising .... and I can already see the wheels turning for guys who will pull off the CAT and Three into One standard system and replace with a full system. Probably good for 10 HP right there.
That puts it in Tiger 1050 territory ... but less weight. Win Win.

This bike Rocks!
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:15 PM   #1751
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The VisorDown review posted by Paul says the alternator is 645w and the rider pegs can have the rubber removed for 20mm extra legroom. I hadn't seen either of these details in print before.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:25 PM   #1752
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Followed shortly by the first knackered one...

http://www.visordown.com/the-grapevi...ash/15492.html
For those who didn't click, the 800 crashed; pillion pegs were merely scuffed, and the tank shrouds prevented any damage to the tank.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:26 PM   #1753
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The VisorDown review posted by Paul says the alternator is 645w and the rider pegs can have the rubber removed for 20mm extra legroom. I hadn't seen either of these details in print before.
Saw the inserts earlier....never thought anything of it.....How much do they weigh do you think?

645W is a beastly amount! I can have a vibrating seat and everything!
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:10 PM   #1754
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Saw the inserts earlier....never thought anything of it.....How much do they weigh do you think?

645W is a beastly amount! I can have a vibrating seat and everything!
That will be great for running the kettle on a chilly day..

I know some of their lines have had R/R issues, hopefully they got that resolved so they don't end up frying anything.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:49 PM   #1755
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I can't believe welded on foot pegs will stop anybody buying this bike. I can't understand why everyone is getting their knickers in a twist over it to be honest. The're welded on - so what? Don't like it, cut them off, simple. You can bet someone, right now, is figuring out a kit for bolt on passenger pegs.
Yet their road bike range including the 1050 Tiger has removable sub-frame and footpegs. It's ludicrous in a bike that's geared to potential off-road (in the XC version) not to have a removable sub-frame at a minimum.

Doing maintenance such as replacing the shock and probably air-box mods is going to be complicated. And if I was planning a big adv through South America or Africa those fixed pegs could be a pain in the leg if you need to dab or support the bike off-road.

It's not a show stopper for me, but it is a disappointment in the XC version.
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