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Old 07-15-2013, 08:27 AM   #17821
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:10 AM   #17822
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Static sag and rider sag

I think the first step is to check the rear sag and set it properly. While we think the issue is the fork or front of the bike, the place to start is the shock and rear of the bike. Once you have established the static sag and rider sag is correct, then you can move on to the front. Good luck.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:16 AM   #17823
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I think the first step is to check the rear sag and set it properly. While we think the issue is the fork or front of the bike, the place to start is the shock and rear of the bike. Once you have established the static sag and rider sag is correct, then you can move on to the front. Good luck.

Never done it before. Any advice?
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:19 AM   #17824
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I suppose where the zip tie is set is bottom, right?

My question is whether my raised fender will hit the lower triple on bottoming. Since I don't know exactly where bottom is I can only guess on measuring. I'm coming up with plus or minus about a quarter inch. It may never smash the fender, then again it's a possibility. I guess I could remove the caps and springs and compress full to test, right?

If bottom is as pictured above I think it will clear, maybe with a thwak!

Anyone tested this with the Touratech riser? I can't imagine they would sell a riser if the fender would hit. I have the fork tubes flush with the top clamp for an extra few millimeters of clearance.



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Old 07-15-2013, 11:19 AM   #17825
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if that fender extender was going to hit or cause a problem, i promise you i would know by now. i know there are others here that would know as well. i wouldn't worry about it. that's my 2c. i know a good suspension guy, if anyone wants to send me a pm i would be happy to share his info. he has torn my forks apart and rebuilt so you know he has an idea of the product.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:54 PM   #17826
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Thanks for the feedback on tire size, folks. I figured it would be fine, since a 100/90 and 110/80 are so very close in overall size, but figured I would run it by this brain trust.



Where is that published? Section 1.36 (Full Specification) of the Factory Service Manual says "Front Tyre Size 100/90 - 19" and nothing more.
There's an amendment. Service bulletin. Referenced in Tiger800.co.uk

I'm onto my 2nd 110/80 front tyre with no issues at all.
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Old 07-15-2013, 12:58 PM   #17827
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Over fill as in to the top of the sight glass, or over fill as in it's pissing out some place?

What is the mechanical issue with over fill and will it hurt anything?
Over filling can lead to a hydraulic lock. Things going bang. As to how much is too much I don't know nor do I want to be a guinea pig for others. That's why I use a graduated jug to refill. From low level to high level is about 500ml.
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:33 PM   #17828
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I suppose where the zip tie is set is bottom, right?

My question is whether my raised fender will hit the lower triple on bottoming. Since I don't know exactly where bottom is I can only guess on measuring. I'm coming up with plus or minus about a quarter inch. It may never smash the fender, then again it's a possibility. I guess I could remove the caps and springs and compress full to test, right?

If bottom is as pictured above I think it will clear, maybe with a thwak!

Anyone tested this with the Touratech riser? I can't imagine they would sell a riser if the fender would hit. I have the fork tubes flush with the top clamp for an extra few millimeters of clearance.



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if that fender extender was going to hit or cause a problem, i promise you i would know by now. i know there are others here that would know as well. i wouldn't worry about it. that's my 2c. i know a good suspension guy, if anyone wants to send me a pm i would be happy to share his info. he has torn my forks apart and rebuilt so you know he has an idea of the product.
Check Burren Riders thread. He broke his front fender off but I think he made his own spacer which was a tad longer than the Touratech. His feeling was the Touratech spacer "should" be OK but like you said with a possible light contact.

Found it, yep his were longer than the Touratech risers...

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....5&postcount=81

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=454
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G'Day Barry,

Funnily enough I think 15mm might be the go after all. I made mine 20mm and after a few crude measurements I deducted that the guard could come in contact with the lower triple clamp at that height, so I rolled it forward a touch to create some clearance. Unfortunately though, it still collected the Allen bolts in the bottom clamp (after bottoming the forks on a rocky trail) and busted the the front guard. The result, half an hour of stuffing around in the bush to clamp it back together and a $359 replacement part on my return.

As an extra precaution, I am going to add some more oil to the forks to restrict the bottoming action a little. The standard air gap is 120mm from what I can gather so I might try 110mm and see how that goes.

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Old 07-15-2013, 01:35 PM   #17829
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It is bottoming out.
Check Burren Riders thread for his build up of his XC, tons of good info. Here's his comments about his front end bottoming.

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=760
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Old 07-15-2013, 01:45 PM   #17830
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I'm looking into doing the handlebar swap as discussed several pages back. As I'm shopping around, I'm seeing that there are lots of variations, does anyone have the specs for the stock XC bars so I know what to compare against? Even a ballpark figure would be helpful.
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Old 07-15-2013, 02:30 PM   #17831
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Check Burren Riders thread. He broke his front fender off but I think he made his own spacer which was a tad longer than the Touratech. His feeling was the Touratech spacer "should" be OK but like you said with a possible light contact.

Found it, yep his were longer than the Touratech risers...

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....5&postcount=81

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....&postcount=454

Thanks. Yeah, mine are about 20mm - about 3/4". I found a pic of the touratech ones and they are definitely shorter.

OTOH, seems rocks or mud on a knobby can also break that fender. Ah well, what to do. The rear brackets are easy to change, but making the fork leg mounts is a little tougher. Do-able, just not as clean. I did the same setup Burren did. Had not seen his and I thought I read that whole thread.

The brake lines need to be split up too instead of the cross over.

Maybe I'll mess with it tonight. Or just take them off. I have a thousand mile trip coming up end of the week.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:05 PM   #17832
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Over fill as in to the top of the sight glass, or over fill as in it's pissing out some place?

What is the mechanical issue with over fill and will it hurt anything?
Overfill too much and the crank throws splash into it at the bottom of the stroke. That not only robs power, it generates foam and spray; given there is always some combustion blow-by which is sucked into the airbox (That's what the PCV valve is for) now you're sucking oil spray into the airbox. If the foaming gets bad enough, you can cause the oil pump to cavitate and stop pumping oil, at which point you have real problems.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:47 PM   #17833
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I seem to recall these are ProTaper bars. I called them years ago to find the bend specs for my dirt bike so I had a reference point.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:56 PM   #17834
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rrr70. I know how to do it but really can not walk you thru it here. just google race sag and you will get all the info you need. you will need a tape measure or SAG tool, but the tape measure works fine for what you are doing. If you have a center stand that is good, as you will need to get the rear wheel off the ground. you will need assistance from a friend to help with measurements.
Ideally when taking the measurement with you standing on the pegs and sitting you want to wear your riding gear so you can replicate the weight on the bike while going down the road. One other thing i just thought of. You need to find the spec for free and riding sag. I know for most dirt bikes it is 100mm or about 4 inches, but I'm pretty sure it is less for this bike. Good luck. You might also ask around your home town friends. There are plenty of suspension guys in the bay area. BTW, if you end up paying this is / should not be an expensive adjustment. If you need a new rear spring then the price starts to climb. About 100.00 for a spring and the shock need to come off to replace it.
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Old 07-15-2013, 07:07 PM   #17835
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Ride sag should be approx 1/3 of total wheel travel. Needs to have some unlaiden sag as well or the rear spring is too stiff.
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