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Old 07-24-2013, 11:00 PM   #17941
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Are the 2014 colours the same as 2013? Wasnt sure if thst was included in your no changes comment.

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:07 PM   #17942
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I'm a father of a little girl and I want to try to be as safe as I can, while still riding a motorcycle. Yes, I split lanes. The fucking traffic every morning on the 580 is stopped, for several miles. Who wouldn't split?
Honestly? I wouldn't. I'd ride at different times or find different transportation if I had a family with a little kid.

But again, that's just my opinion. I ride my bike in traffic, too, and I do split lanes sometimes (luckily legal here in California), but I don't have kids. And I think all car drivers are blind and deaf - which they are. A louder exhaust won't make a difference in my opinion. I'm super sensitive to this but when I'm in a car in slow traffic I don't hear a bike coming from the rear. No way. I see them in the mirror and I make space, but hearing? Not a chance. And I don't listen to loud music or so. Modern cars isolate so well and the physics plain don't work in your favor there - low frequency is hard to locate, high frequency is fairly easily drowned by other traffic noise, music, sound insulation in cars, ...

In my opinion, you have absolutely no chance of making yourself more conspicuous with more noise. What MIGHT help a little bit are some Skene Design Photon Blaster or something like that. Flickering light is caught by the eye even in mirrors you are not looking at all the time - especially then as flicker is more easily detected outside your focus area.
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Old 07-25-2013, 01:06 AM   #17943
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Stay Tune for a new Bike Build thread to start soon.
as I will need to call on some of you Tiger owners to help me out !!!

I should be getting a New 2014 800 Tiger xc in two weeks.
Then off it will go to Dirt Bike for its first ADV Bike comparison.
Then the FUN will start!!!
I will be doing a complete Bike build on the Tiger 800 XC to take on the
NORRA Mexican 1000 in April down the Baja peninsula and then
the Tiger 800xc will head up to the Alcan 5000 Rally in August in Alaska
Sounds like fun! Looking forward to it,
I bet the first thing you do is to cable tie the tip over switch down, they tend to come loose when jumping and rough stuff ( situated under the rear black plastic cargo rack) I turned mine around so I could fit my spare tube under there.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:37 AM   #17944
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Is it possible to adjust the throttle without removing the fuel tank?

At my first TT800 I don't find screws to adjust them directly on the throttle, so I MUST remove the fuel tank
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:53 AM   #17945
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Yes, I split lanes. The fucking traffic every morning on the 580 is stopped, for several miles. Who wouldn't split?
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Honestly? I wouldn't. I'd ride at different times or find different transportation if I had a family with a little kid.
cug, every city in Europe would grind to a halt if motorcycles didn't filter (lane split) through the gridlock. Once you're used to doing it and the cage drivers expect it, it's not really too dangerous.
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:58 AM   #17946
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Is it possible to adjust the throttle without removing the fuel tank?

At my first TT800 I don't find screws to adjust them directly on the throttle, so I MUST remove the fuel tank
If it's just the free play you want to take out there's an adjuster built into one of the cables about 3 inches down from the twist grip.
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Old 07-25-2013, 06:38 AM   #17947
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I should be getting a New 2014 800 Tiger xc in two weeks.
Then off it will go to Dirt Bike for its first ADV Bike comparison.
Then the FUN will start!!!
I will be doing a complete Bike build on the Tiger 800 XC to take on the
NORRA Mexican 1000 in April down the Baja peninsula and then
the Tiger 800xc will head up to the Alcan 5000 Rally in August in Alaska


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Old 07-25-2013, 08:52 AM   #17948
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I do, however, hear the bikes with loud pipes on the streets in my neighborhood in middle of the night, even when they're blocks away, which makes them out to be dicks.
I, unfortunately, live in a neighborhood where there is a bar that became a "biker bar". It's all day, everyday, for me. These clowns HAVE to make an entrance and exit performance. The bar is open 9AM to 2AM. I hate it.

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I agree I have friends who say it all the time. You usually hear them when they are beside or past you and then they scare the crap out of you.
I ride with a guy who has a Yamaha Stratoliner. He has a slip-on that is moderately loud and I never hear him, when he's behind me. It's only as he passes or is in front, like you said.

BTW, you can go into your phone's settings and turn off that signature line that appears with your posts.

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Not sure if you have much experience splitting lanes, but a louder can makes a huge difference in making yourself apparent to drivers in front of you.
It's been scientifically proven, numerous times, that the sound is projected out the back; not the front.

Have you thought about a headlight modulator? I've had numerous attention-grabbing moments, when I caught the subtle flashing of a headlight, in my side mirror. That seems more effective, in a lane-splitting scenario, than exhaust mods.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:09 AM   #17949
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I agree with the everyone saying that loud pipes are more obnoxious than anything, BUT, there is something to be said about hearing them more easily. As a bit of anecdotal evidence, my friend likes to tease me about my Two Bros. exhaust on my SV, it sounds great, but discreet it is not (it came with the bike, not my doing). He's told me that my bike is so loud, that he can hear my mis-shifts, even when he's in front of me.

When I'm in my car, do I notice a bike with loud pipes at highway speed, with my radio on? Not really. But in stop and go traffic (which is the only justified use of lane splitting, IMO), I can definitely hear them approaching.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:22 AM   #17950
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cug, every city in Europe would grind to a halt if motorcycles didn't filter (lane split) through the gridlock. Once you're used to doing it and the cage drivers expect it, it's not really too dangerous.
That is, quite frankly, way exaggerated. I'm German and lived most of my life in Germany, and been to most big cities in Europe. Probably to more than most Europeans. So you don't have to tell me about European cities.

The traffic situation is made better by motorcycles and scooters, but not to the extend you write. And btw: it is the same in the metropolitan areas here in the US (SF, LA, DC, NY, ...). Most everywhere filtering is illegal. Europe or US, doesn't matter.

And as I said: I do filter, within reason, which I expect quite a few folks do. On the other hand, about 30% of the filtering I see here in California is just plain stupid, irresponsible behavior.

The other side of this is that drivers here in California are about the worst I have seen anywhere in the world. Calgary and Vancouver were bad, but it was nothing compared to the Bay Area here. People have no freaking clue about sensible distance, speed, behavior, don't know the rules, are either passive aggressive, actively aggressive, or plain inconsiderate, rude, or ignorant. It's much worse with woman than with men in my experience, they seem to be on the phone or texting with a much higher percentage than men (which by the way is both illegal in CA). I mostly commute with bicycle or motorcycle, sometimes with the car - same behavior experienced in all three.

So, really, I know about filtering and bad traffic. And given the small percentage of two-wheelers - it doesn't really matter. If more people were riding bicycles and scooters and motorcycles, sure, but not given the normal percentages in Europe or the US. Look at Asia if you want to make a point there.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:37 AM   #17951
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The other side of this is that drivers here in California are about the worst I have seen anywhere in the world. Calgary and Vancouver were bad, but it was nothing compared to the Bay Area here. People have no freaking clue about sensible distance, speed, behavior, don't know the rules, are either passive aggressive, actively aggressive, or plain inconsiderate, rude, or ignorant. It's much worse with woman than with men in my experience, they seem to be on the phone or texting with a much higher percentage than men (which by the way is both illegal in CA). I mostly commute with bicycle or motorcycle, sometimes with the car - same behavior experienced in all three.
Want to know something frightening? I just got back from MotoGP and once again noticed that CA drivers are better than Washington drivers by a factor of about 5. WA drivers are waaay up there in the accidents per mile driven category. And they live on their cell phones.
Sorry for the hijack - now back to Tigers...
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:44 AM   #17952
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If you are getting a 2014 I guess that answers the question, no changes for 2014.
I can not answer that?
I will let you know when I get the bike.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:58 AM   #17953
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I guess it's all a matter of where you're driving. South Bay, during the times when school starts or ends or during commute it's a freaking nightmare. Weekends it's better. And I notice the inconsiderate behavior more when I'm on the bicycle, I have had my elbows touched by stupid bitches passing way too close (normally no traffic in the other directions) multiple times in the last few years. It's totally unbelievable. Never happened with a male driver, although these are more aggressive towards other car drivers.

I've never experienced so much stupidity and ignorance in Europe - although it was pretty bad in the cities there, too. Probably helps a lot to have more dedicated space for bicyclist.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:00 AM   #17954
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I'm not exceeding the speed of fucking sound, wizards, so yeah, they hear me coming before I arrive.
This made me lol.
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:15 PM   #17955
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Speaking of offensive, the presumptions people are making about all this make me question why I thought there might be wisdom within this forum in the first place.
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