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Old 07-30-2013, 11:53 AM   #18001
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This is a bike for OFFROAD. Really, how can you compare a Tiger XC to one of these for trailriding?

This is why most of us need multiple bikes.



Although I was catching funny looks from guys riding these types of bikes who had to trailer them up parked at various parts of the trail to the top of Engineer pass watching me rooster tail gravel and larger rocks from a 500lb bike 2-up with a devilish grin I couldn't wipe off if I tried!

I would say the XC is a perfect compromise for me as the only horse in the stable (At the moment). My Street Legal XR400 was great for tearing up any rough terrain but it only did that, not comfortable on the ride to the trails and couldn't even think of taking a passenger (As pictured above).

Since I found the right suspension settings to eliminate the majority of the chain slap it has really proven to be the best choice for my riding style. It really eats up whatever I throw at it.

There's a few guys I ride with on this forum and can attest the shit they ride the smaller bikes in I'm right there with them. The XC is only limited by my skill level not the other way around...

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Old 07-30-2013, 12:46 PM   #18002
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My mates slightly newer one.

My 12' and 13' look just like this
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:02 PM   #18003
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This is why most of us need multiple bikes.



Although I was catching funny looks from guys riding these types of bikes who had to trailer them up parked at various parts of the trail to the top of Engineer pass watching me rooster tail gravel and larger rocks from a 500lb bike 2-up with a devilish grin I couldn't wipe off if I tried!
I could only imagine, I got about 50 yards up the trail when I realized there was no way I was going to trash my buddies truck trying to get up Engineer. I have a rule to not treat others gear as if it's my own

Other wise we would have hiked Handies instead of over Owl's Creek Pass.

I agree it's me, not the bike that is the limiting factor. But in skiing, it's the gear, not the skier
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:32 PM   #18004
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Used Dual sport Dirt bike to learn on

Looking for a DUAL SPORT to learn on. Here in the high desert we have many trails right in our back yard and it makes no sense to have to trailer the bike to get to those trails because it isn't street legal. I know that most dual sports are not state of the art, but then neither am I. I need something about as sophisticated as a hammer. I'm 6'2" 250lbs so I don't know if a 250 has enough grunt. Need something big enough to haul me around with a price tag not to exceed $3,500. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:46 PM   #18005
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Looking for a DUAL SPORT to learn on. Here in the high desert we have many trails right in our back yard and it makes no sense to have to trailer the bike to get to those trails because it isn't street legal. I know that most dual sports are not state of the art, but then neither am I. I need something about as sophisticated as a hammer. I'm 6'2" 250lbs so I don't know if a 250 has enough grunt. Need something big enough to haul me around with a price tag not to exceed $3,500. Any suggestions?
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I paid $2200 for my DRZ400S. I tear it up on all the black/hardest trails and still comfortably go 70mph on the freeway.

Simple, bulletproof bikes. I crash it *all the time* in the dirt, heh.

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Old 07-30-2013, 06:21 PM   #18006
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Looking for a DUAL SPORT to learn on. Here in the high desert we have many trails right in our back yard and it makes no sense to have to trailer the bike to get to those trails because it isn't street legal. I know that most dual sports are not state of the art, but then neither am I. I need something about as sophisticated as a hammer. I'm 6'2" 250lbs so I don't know if a 250 has enough grunt. Need something big enough to haul me around with a price tag not to exceed $3,500. Any suggestions?
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For what you're doing, you'd be hard pressed to beat a DRZ in terms of value and if you don't trash it, you can sell a decent one in a heartbeat and the learning experience will cost you nothing. You might also keep an eye out for an XR650L Honda, those are pretty bulletproof and will take you anywhere you want to go. Given your size, you don't want a 250 dual sport. I've got a Yam WR250R and while it does has some advantages, if I had to give up it or the DRZ, I think the DRZ would be the one I'd keep, tho it's great to have both...and an XC!
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Old 07-30-2013, 06:59 PM   #18007
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You're right, I have no clue. That's why I was asking.
Oops. I didn't realize your statement was a question. My bad.

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I'm so confused.
Call the manufacturer.

That's what I did, with Michelin's B-spec tires. I'm having some specific wear issues with all rears on my 1050, as I ride a lot of two-up. They recommended the heavier sidewall of their B-spec tire, to stabilize the tread. Makes sense, to me.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:43 PM   #18008
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Looking for a DUAL SPORT to learn on. Here in the high desert we have many trails right in our back yard and it makes no sense to have to trailer the bike to get to those trails because it isn't street legal. I know that most dual sports are not state of the art, but then neither am I. I need something about as sophisticated as a hammer. I'm 6'2" 250lbs so I don't know if a 250 has enough grunt. Need something big enough to haul me around with a price tag not to exceed $3,500. Any suggestions?
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litteraly 1 page back we just started this discussion
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:46 PM   #18009
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litteraly 1 page back we just started this discussion
same poster asking the same question.
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:49 PM   #18010
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same poster asking the same question.

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:23 PM   #18011
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Can we please get back onto discussion of the Tiger 800.

There are plenty of threads for oil and DS bikes here. Please keep the discussion to the 800.

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:45 PM   #18012
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Dual sport question

Sorry guys. Didn't mean to hijack the thread. I only posted again as I didn't think that I explained my original question properly. BTW I posted the original question because I had seen a recent post about this on this thread. Thanks to all that took the time to share their experiences.
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:49 AM   #18013
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You're right, I have no clue. That's why I was asking.

But why did the factory spec V tires on it then?
Bike manufacturers have to cover their arse. If a bike has a top speed of, say 135mph, they HAVE TO spec a tyre that can cope with those speeds. So they have to spec a "V". "H" is sustained speeds UP TO 130mph. So maybe Triumph reckons the T800 needs a V even though no-one will ever get there.

My Mefo Explorer front is a R rating i.e. up to 105mph.
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Old 07-31-2013, 08:51 AM   #18014
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Bike manufacturers have to cover their arse. If a bike has a top speed of, say 135mph, they HAVE TO spec a tyre that can cope with those speeds. So they have to spec a "V". "H" is sustained speeds UP TO 130mph. So maybe Triumph reckons the T800 needs a V even though no-one will ever get there.

My Mefo Explorer front is a R rating i.e. up to 105mph.

I appreciate everyone's explaination of speed ratings, and I get that. What I want to know is there a difference in riding performance at normal speeds between these ratings. Does a V-tire handle better? Does it wear faster? In real-world use is there a difference? Enough to warrant the selection of one over the other? And specifically, as it applies to the Michelin A-3. The Pirelli Trails are all V-rated, although there is a choice of H as well for the front. Same question would apply there.
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Old 07-31-2013, 02:42 PM   #18015
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i just came across this, is there any news on this, ive been looking for a top rack that is rotopax compatible


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Hi guys, I've been getting a few emails for some spy pics of the new rack we've been testing this summer.

It's based off the proven, strong and versatile design our KTM racks have been for years.

It's not ready for release yet, but if interested please give me some feedback via email. I'm hoping to have a small batch ready in a week or so, at that time it will be moved to vendors. Just thought you might like a look.

BTW, I've had a chance to ride this bike during testing and it's a blast. The first bike I've been on since the KTM 950 ADV that has an engine in a DS platform that's made me smile and excited. Triumph built a great bike and the reason I decided to offer a rack for it and maybe some other stuff in the future....

Here you go. Triumph 800 tail rack-








If you need a storage box. A Pelican case bolts on great. These are the strongest DS boxes out there that hold up to our needs.
Here is a pic of it on our 950 ADV. Same rack size and box mounting options.





QUESTION:

I've seen some riders changing out the stock windscreen. Anyone want to get rid of there stock one? I think I have a use for it on another project bike...
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