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Old 11-09-2010, 01:45 PM   #1861
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Please ignore the welded on foot peg mounts. It's barely ridable with those damn things.
How have you managed? I'm surprised it hasn't been a total loss insurance claim!
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:11 PM   #1862
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Please ignore the welded on foot peg mounts. It's barely ridable with those damn things.
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Old 11-09-2010, 02:17 PM   #1863
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Prices anounced for France :
Tiger 800 : 8990 Euros
9590 Euros with switchable ABS

Tiger 800XC : 9990 Euros
10590 Euros with switchable ABS (300 Euros less than a 800GS ABS)
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:52 PM   #1864
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Of course, but would that not void the warranty on your frame (taking a saw to things, tends to do that )?
Not sure, Phantom. Good point, however.

If I were a Triumph guy looking at a frame problem, I'd tend to "not see", this minor "enhancement". That's just me. Considering Triumph has put a nice effort into this bike, I'm certain they want to project an image of standing with it, as far as the customer is concerned. They have a good reputation to defend, after all.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:55 PM   #1865
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And I agree fully .... you can't compare, seriously, a 990adv to the Tiger 800xc, as they are two completely different bikes.

I too, am liking what I see with the new Tiger.

The one thing that was horse shit with the 990adv is it's throttle response in relation to the FI. For the life of me I don't understand how KTM cannot get that combo right. From what I understand, they still haven't in 2010.

The throttle response / FI on my girlie is smooth as butter. Another inmate who has several bikes including a 950, has stated, that he thought the smoothest throttle / FI combo was in fact, from Triumph.

So I'm eagerly awaiting one to arrive on the floor of my dealer ......

G.
I'd agree that Triumph seem to do a good job with their FI. We've owned two Kawasaki's with flawless FI as well. So it seems it can be done, just wonder why some manufacturers struggle with it so much, KTM, V-Stroms etc.
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Old 11-09-2010, 03:59 PM   #1866
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I'd agree that Triumph seem to do a good job with their FI. We've owned two Kawasaki's with flawless FI as well. So it seems it can be done, just wonder why some manufacturers struggle with it so much, KTM, V-Stroms etc.
650 Stroms have very good mapping
The 1000's not so much.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:03 PM   #1867
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I'm really intrigued by the 800xc. A bit of history to help you understand my perspective. I've owned primarily Hondas for the last 40 years - great bikes, and stone reliable. Had hoped the Africa Twin would make it to the states. Now the concept CrossTourer shows up - unfortunately it appears to be a GS wannabe (1200 not 800). I have a GSA1150 which takes me down many gravel and dirt roads and an occasional trail here and there. Its been pretty reliable as well - I did replace the final drive bearing at 65k miles last year - other than that its been simple routine maintenance and ride! I love the bike but its a bit big and heavy thus the interest in the 800XC. I've never owned a Triumph and I don't know many who do. From a reliability perspective - what can one expect?
As said, this has mostly been addressed earlier, but I'll give you my 2 cents. We've owned 3 modern Triumphs and all have been completely reliable with just regular maintenance needed. Don't get me started on Honda, we've owned 5 and my 2008 CBF is the most unreliable bike I've ever owned and I've owned several of each of the Japanese manufacturers as well as 2 BMWs, a KTM etc. So far my CBF has cost me a $760 fuel pump and a month later the $550 stator fried. Stator's are a known issue with the CBFs with over 40 documented cases on the CBF forum and several riders are on their 2 or third stator. I'm done with Honda and will gladly ride a Triumph, they are as good as or better than the Japanese or German bikes.

I used to say to people trying to decide between two different brands, "You can't buy a bad bike, all the manufacturers build a good bike now a days." I no longer feel like I can say that.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:07 PM   #1868
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650 Stroms have very good mapping
The 1000's not so much.
Yeah sorry, should have been clearer, I was thinking of my riding buddy's DL1000, which was almost unrideable at constant small throttle. It hunted and surged quite badly. His dealer remapped it and it got a bit better, but his mileage tanked so he just went back to the original map and lived with it. That's sort of my point though, if Suzuki can get their FI to work well on the 650, why not on the 1000?
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:18 PM   #1869
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Yeah sorry, should have been clearer, I was thinking of my riding buddy's DL1000, which was almost unrideable at constant small throttle. It hunted and surged quite badly. His dealer remapped it and it got a bit better, but his mileage tanked so he just went back to the original map and lived with it. That's sort of my point though, if Suzuki can get their FI to work well on the 650, why not on the 1000?
I have put nearly 20,000 miles on my Dl1000...you adapt to the throttle..probably one of the biggest flaws of the bike IMHO
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:36 PM   #1870
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like this?

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...mph-tiger-800/

just the usual MCN but still it's something!
They're having a laugh! What a waste of internet space! We're about to test it...

I still don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, ever, by ignoring MCN.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:37 PM   #1871
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I'll be very curious to see how the regular 800 ABS compares to an F650GS twin with ABS in both price, performance, and aftermarket. Well, add the 990 SMT ABS to the mix as well. Now that the Fazer8 ABS isn't coming to the US, I'll need some way to spend my middleweight dollars.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:47 PM   #1872
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Who cares about the stupid pegs?! I want to know how it will compare to the 990 adventure in the power department!?
Might I suggest a quick ride aboard the 990 adv, then grab a test ride on a Street Triple ... or maybe even a Speed Triple. I would guess the Tiger 800 motor will fall somewhere between the S-3 and Street - T.

Totally different character ... which is obvious to anyone who's ridden the two. KTM is typical twin monster torque off the bottom with a nice mid range zing, taper off towards redline. Very nice character but thumpy, lumpy in nature.

Triples are smooth as silk with a cool electric like urge. Very good mid range power, not much on top or bottom. I rode my 1050 Tiger back to back with a new Multistrada recently. Multi had more outright power but I liked the Tiger Triple better over all. Better sound, better feel, smoother and more fun.
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Old 11-09-2010, 04:59 PM   #1873
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on smooth pavement it should be nice for a trip to starbucks.
off-pavement it will be a liability
Somebody escort this person to the sheltered workshop with the others.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:16 PM   #1874
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Have been test riding my brother's 09' 990 Adventure for the past 3 days. Love the power, sound, feel, and looks. Don't like the 34 mpg I have been getting ( I'm very hard on the throttle). Don't like the buffeting / wind noise either.

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Might I suggest a quick ride aboard the 990 adv, then grab a test ride on a Street Triple ... or maybe even a Speed Triple. I would guess the Tiger 800 motor will fall somewhere between the S-3 and Street - T.

Totally different character ... which is obvious to anyone who's ridden the two. KTM is typical twin monster torque off the bottom with a nice mid range zing, taper off towards redline. Very nice character but thumpy, lumpy in nature.

Triples are smooth as silk with a cool electric like urge. Very good mid range power, not much on top or bottom. I rode my 1050 Tiger back to back with a new Multistrada recently. Multi had more outright power but I liked the Tiger Triple better over all. Better sound, better feel, smoother and more fun.
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Old 11-09-2010, 06:19 PM   #1875
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How have you managed? I'm surprised it hasn't been a total loss insurance claim!
Like DireWolf, I constantly struggled with those welded on footpegs lingering in the back of my mind. Scary stuff they are, especially on a 4500 mile trip. I don't know how I made it without damaging the frame. Sheer blind luck.


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