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Old 10-23-2013, 01:19 AM   #18781
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The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.
I had had the fuel map from when I bought my Tiger a year and a half ago, but a few weeks ago I got the latest map uploaded. My MPG's have dropped about 4-6 mpg with the latest map.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:26 AM   #18782
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I have owned my new '12 800XC for a month now and I am disappointed with the fuel economy. It only does 180 miles to bone dry. It wouldn't bother me if the '11 800XC I traded for it hadn't gone 225 to bone dry. Both have 20 miles left in the tank when the computer reads --miles to (gas pump). The new one reports 42 mpg while the '11 reported a consistent 52 mpg for 18,000 miles.

From what I can gather from reading mileage threads here, the new bike is close to normal and the old bike is an anomaly. Either way it's difficult to understand.
The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.

If anyone is looking for a gas miser I know where there's one for sale.
I commute on mine - 80 miles a day, mostly highways, and round here, cruising at 80 is the norm (so I am going at more like 85...allegedly) and I can easily get 200 from a tank. I am running the original map - I never upgraded as I didn't feel the need to. I'd try changing maps before I sell the bike.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:27 AM   #18783
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Two days ago, I picked up a water cooled R1200GS to ride for a few days. After about 425 miles, this morning I brought the GS back, and picked up my Tiger.

I enjoyed riding the GS, and thought that it was a good bike, overall. I can understand why people buy them (because they've never rode a Tiger!).


Sitting on the Tiger, I instantly felt at home. I started it up, and .. hey, where are the vibrations in the seat and the handlebars that the GS had? I rode a few miles, hey, why aren't my hands numb from the vibration of the GS motor? I got off the bike, and hey, why doesn't my ass feel like it's being shaken by a blender? Back on the bike, and onto the freeway, and wow, my Tiger has only slightly less wind protection than the GS! And as I shift through the gears, it's smooth as glass, unlike the BMW, there is no clunking into gear.


The Tiger is a great bike, and getting on it this morning left no doubt in my mind, it would be foolish to even ponder the purchase of a GS.
I've been on Bricks most of my motorcycling life. Been hankering for a GS. Even had one picked. Then I let my housemate (owns a Triumph Bonnie and Tiger 1050) Talk me into taking an explorer and 800's for a test ride. WOW! WOW! WOW! I rode all three Kitty's for about 30 minutes each. When I got off I KNEW!! I JUST KNEW!! I was smitten with a kitten! The 800 and the 800XC are just FERAL and AWESOME!!!! I'll be getting an 800 sometime in the spring!
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:39 AM   #18784
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I've been on Bricks most of my motorcycling life. Been hankering for a GS. Even had one picked. Then I let my housemate (owns a Triumph Bonnie and Tiger 1050) Talk me into taking an explorer and 800's for a test ride. WOW! WOW! WOW! I rode all three Kitty's for about 30 minutes each. When I got off I KNEW!! I JUST KNEW!! I was smitten with a kitten! The 800 and the 800XC are just FERAL and AWESOME!!!! I'll be getting an 800 sometime in the spring!
Doesn't take much does it! I don't know anyone from reading that tried the BMW then the tiger and then chose the GS. At least an F-GS.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:47 AM   #18785
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I have owned my new '12 800XC for a month now and I am disappointed with the fuel economy. It only does 180 miles to bone dry. It wouldn't bother me if the '11 800XC I traded for it hadn't gone 225 to bone dry. Both have 20 miles left in the tank when the computer reads --miles to (gas pump). The new one reports 42 mpg while the '11 reported a consistent 52 mpg for 18,000 miles.

From what I can gather from reading mileage threads here, the new bike is close to normal and the old bike is an anomaly. Either way it's difficult to understand.
The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.

If anyone is looking for a gas miser I know where there's one for sale.
Diggerled. Is the new Tiger still running in? My mileage didn't really improve until about 3 - 3,500km. Now I Rarely get below 52mpg. Running the newest tune/map, Scorpion exhaust, no cat and no o2 sensor.

My lifetime average (110 fills) is 52.24mpg (UK)
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:14 AM   #18786
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Diggerled. Is the new Tiger still running in? My mileage didn't really improve until about 3 - 3,500km. Now I Rarely get below 52mpg. Running the newest tune/map, Scorpion exhaust, no cat and no o2 sensor.

My lifetime average (110 fills) is 52.24mpg (UK)
Imperial vs. US gallons... ?????
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:21 AM   #18787
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Imperial vs. US gallons... ?????

52.24 mpg (UK) = 43.5 of the smaller US mpg
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:43 AM   #18788
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Doesn't take much does it! I don't know anyone from reading that tried the BMW then the tiger and then chose the GS. At least an F-GS.
yeah!! Not much at all. I'm still trying to figure out why I preferred the 8's over the Explorer. I think it was the simplicity. The big girl was wonderful. Truly. But I felt more at home on the Kitten's. Nimble. Fun. Etc. I even did a quick two up on it to see what the handling would be like and I was totally pleased. The ONLY thing I wish the 8's had is a shaft drive. But I'll get over that.

And OOOOOOOH!! That little GROWL when you get to about 5k rpms!!!! damn....sublime!
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:44 AM   #18789
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52.24 mpg (UK) = 43.5 of the smaller US mpg

which is right in line with what I am getting on my 2012
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:03 AM   #18790
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I have owned my new '12 800XC for a month now... the '11 800XC I traded for it...
Okay, I just have to ask... Why on earth did you trade in a bike for the same model a year newer? There weren't any changes...

Or did you just HAVE to have a different color?

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Old 10-23-2013, 06:36 AM   #18791
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My bike seems to be schizophrenic with its fuel economy. 2 tanks ago, I got around 42 mpg, last tank I got almost 52, and the current one, I don't know yet, but the fuel gauge dropped a bar after 8 miles. That's mostly been commuting, and riding at a reasonable pace, 70-75 mph.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:46 AM   #18792
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Mine is pretty consistent that at 150 miles the light comes on. Having already run out once due to a faulty gauge, I am not pushing it to see how far I can get. Although the most fuel I have put into it was 3.9 gallons.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:46 AM   #18793
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I'm still trying to figure out why I preferred the 8's over the Explorer. I think it was the simplicity. The big girl was wonderful. Truly. But I felt more at home on the Kitten's. Nimble. Fun. Etc. I even did a quick two up on it to see what the handling would be like and I was totally pleased. The ONLY thing I wish the 8's had is a shaft drive. But I'll get over that.
I had a Daytona 675, while owning my 1050. While the 1050 is definitely a gentlemen's express, I prefer the light feeling and rev-happy 800 (reminds me of the 675). The 800 engine is much smoother than my 1050. Likewise the 675 engine was way smoother. Giving up the 1050 torque and the bike's overall refinement will be hard. I didn't even consider climbing onto the Explorer, as weight is so important to me. But, the shaft and cruise control (I have 2 NIB Audiovox CC that one could go on an 800) are tempting. Anyway, it seems you have the same feeling as I.
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:01 AM   #18794
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My bike seems to be schizophrenic with its fuel economy. 2 tanks ago, I got around 42 mpg, last tank I got almost 52, and the current one, I don't know yet, but the fuel gauge dropped a bar after 8 miles. That's mostly been commuting, and riding at a reasonable pace, 70-75 mph.
You guys do know that when you disconnect or reflash the ECU it goes into the learning cycle for a few tanks of gas where it retards timing and retards the throttle response slightly while it re-optimizes your fuel/air mapping? Well, that it does. You also should verify the units as mentioned included in the reflash and you might need to reset them to US Imperial.

My buddy is a wheelie nut on his Speed Trip and got the reflash done. Took it right back after he said he couldn't do a wheelie because the throttle response is gone. Then they filled us in how the ECU works.

So, if after say 3 tanks of gas you still get the same poor mileage, then raise the red flag...
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Old 10-23-2013, 09:07 AM   #18795
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. You also should verify the units as mentioned included in the reflash and you might need to reset them to US Imperial.

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Miles are miles. People shouldn't be estimating their mpg based off the computer anyway so whatever it's set to won't matter. Not saying you shouldn't check the setting, just don't base any mpg off of it.
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