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Old 10-21-2013, 02:09 PM   #18781
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i'm not sure bikes don't start when they think you don't have gas. it should still turnover and fire...

+1, not sure where he is getting that info from. Even with no bars showing it still runs. Never heard of bike not running because it reads below a certain fuel level. Not saying it's not possible, just never heard of that.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:51 PM   #18782
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I'm not sure which part, the one that makes it so my bike won't start because it doesn't think I have gas. Would it be something wrong with the float assembly or something else?
I with the others and I don't think a float assy would cause the problem.
Does the starter spin? Will the engine try to start but just die?
Have you checked the side stand safety switch? and the clutch lever micro switch?
Just a few things to look for.

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Old 10-21-2013, 08:55 PM   #18783
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Anyone here know how many watts the generator puts out on the 800. The explorer is 975watts which will be able to run my house in a blackout, but I haven't seen any numbers for the 800.
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Old 10-21-2013, 08:57 PM   #18784
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Anyone here know how many watts the generator puts out on the 800. The explorer is 975watts which will be able to run my house in a blackout, but I haven't seen any numbers for the 800.
645 watt alternator if that's what you mean
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:00 PM   #18785
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anyone here know how many watts the generator puts out on the 800. The explorer is 975watts which will be able to run my house in a blackout, but i haven't seen any numbers for the 800.
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Old 10-21-2013, 09:01 PM   #18786
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Anyone here know how many watts the generator puts out on the 800. The explorer is 975watts which will be able to run my house in a blackout, but I haven't seen any numbers for the 800.

It's cleverly hidden away on the triumph website.
http://www.triumphmotorcycles.com/mo...r-800/features
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Old 10-22-2013, 05:03 AM   #18787
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Anyone here know how many watts the generator puts out on the 800. The explorer is 975watts which will be able to run my house in a blackout, but I haven't seen any numbers for the 800.

Its enough for two heated full sleeve liners, a set of gloves and a set of grips. all running at the same time. No issues
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:25 AM   #18788
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Doesn't matter how little or much I turn the throttle, makes no difference. It won't fire.

Based on what I have read, I suspect the fuel sensor. Has anyone had one die on them?
Err, kill switch off? Side stand switch not b0rken?
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:55 AM   #18789
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I with the others and I don't think a float assy would cause the problem.
Does the starter spin? Will the engine try to start but just die?
Have you checked the side stand safety switch? and the clutch lever micro switch?
Just a few things to look for.

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I turns over no problem. Doesn't a side stand/kill switch problem prohibit the starter from turning over? It's not firing, not getting a spark or fuel. The fact that the display shows no gas is suspicious.
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Old 10-22-2013, 09:33 AM   #18790
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I turns over no problem. Doesn't a side stand/kill switch problem prohibit the starter from turning over? It's not firing, not getting a spark or fuel. The fact that the display shows no gas is suspicious.
That is odd. You're right it wouldn't turn over at all for that scenario. It sounds like the fuel sending unit, not the float assby. Or, just the wiring, which the dealer said has been a bit flaky. They've had a few bikes in because a connector here or there was just loose.

I took my bike the dealer for the first service, and upon receipt, the gas gauge didn't work anymore. Mine works and runs fine though, and the low level warning still comes on. Still haven't dropped it off as they need at least a week. Winter project...
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Old 10-22-2013, 01:59 PM   #18791
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Tiger 800XC vs BMW R1200GS Water cooled

Two days ago, I picked up a water cooled R1200GS to ride for a few days. After about 425 miles, this morning I brought the GS back, and picked up my Tiger.

I enjoyed riding the GS, and thought that it was a good bike, overall. I can understand why people buy them (because they've never rode a Tiger!).

I left my house this morning for the ride to return the GS and get my Tiger, and felt good on the GS, and while I didn't want to buy one, I saw the allure of having one. With the GS returned, I got on my Tiger and headed out for some errands.

Sitting on the Tiger, I instantly felt at home. I started it up, and .. hey, where are the vibrations in the seat and the handlebars that the GS had? I rode a few miles, hey, why aren't my hands numb from the vibration of the GS motor? I got off the bike, and hey, why doesn't my ass feel like it's being shaken by a blender? Back on the bike, and onto the freeway, and wow, my Tiger has only slightly less wind protection than the GS! And as I shift through the gears, it's smooth as glass, unlike the BMW, there is no clunking into gear.

I'm pretty sure that you know what I'm getting at here. True, the GS is a good bike. However, I can honestly say, based on how I evaluate and use bikes, the Tiger is better. Off the top of my head, about the only things that I liked better about the GS over the Tiger is the little bit of extra fuel that allows a rider to get 230 miles out of a tank, rather than stretch it to 200 miles, and the cruise control, to give the right hand a break. Other than that, I felt like the Triumph was equal to, or better than the GS in all categories. This is of course comparing the 800 CC Triumph with the 1200 CC BMW. I can only imagine what my feedback may be had I compared the 1200 CC Triumph with the 1200 CC BMW.

The Tiger is a great bike, and getting on it this morning left no doubt in my mind, it would be foolish to even ponder the purchase of a GS.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:36 PM   #18792
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I can only imagine what my feedback may be had I compared the 1200 CC Triumph with the 1200 CC BMW.

The Tiger is a great bike, and getting on it this morning left no doubt in my mind, it would be foolish to even ponder the purchase of a GS.
Although I have not actually ridden an Explorer, I can only surmise that a lot of us would still choose the 800 over it as well as any of the others out there.

When I went shopping for a bike I didn't put a size or dollar limit on the best 'adventure' bike for me. There's a reason 800XC won so many awards and got such favorable press - it's a really great bike.

Imagine my reaction when I got back on my tiger after test riding a couple of harleys - a new Switchback and a late heritage softtail. One of the thoughts was how much I admired the stamina of some of those hard core long distance riders on them things. Yikes!
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Old 10-22-2013, 08:18 PM   #18793
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Mileage

I have owned my new '12 800XC for a month now and I am disappointed with the fuel economy. It only does 180 miles to bone dry. It wouldn't bother me if the '11 800XC I traded for it hadn't gone 225 to bone dry. Both have 20 miles left in the tank when the computer reads --miles to (gas pump). The new one reports 42 mpg while the '11 reported a consistent 52 mpg for 18,000 miles.

From what I can gather from reading mileage threads here, the new bike is close to normal and the old bike is an anomaly. Either way it's difficult to understand.
The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.

If anyone is looking for a gas miser I know where there's one for sale.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:19 AM   #18794
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The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.
I had had the fuel map from when I bought my Tiger a year and a half ago, but a few weeks ago I got the latest map uploaded. My MPG's have dropped about 4-6 mpg with the latest map.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:26 AM   #18795
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I have owned my new '12 800XC for a month now and I am disappointed with the fuel economy. It only does 180 miles to bone dry. It wouldn't bother me if the '11 800XC I traded for it hadn't gone 225 to bone dry. Both have 20 miles left in the tank when the computer reads --miles to (gas pump). The new one reports 42 mpg while the '11 reported a consistent 52 mpg for 18,000 miles.

From what I can gather from reading mileage threads here, the new bike is close to normal and the old bike is an anomaly. Either way it's difficult to understand.
The only difference I can figure is Tiger 1 was running the original MAP while Tiger 2 has the latest and greatest MAP.

If anyone is looking for a gas miser I know where there's one for sale.
I commute on mine - 80 miles a day, mostly highways, and round here, cruising at 80 is the norm (so I am going at more like 85...allegedly) and I can easily get 200 from a tank. I am running the original map - I never upgraded as I didn't feel the need to. I'd try changing maps before I sell the bike.
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