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Old 12-31-2013, 11:50 AM   #19336
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Thanks guys! All makes sense......not sure what route I want to take yet because I won't have the GPS on the bike ALL the time, I may just cut off the Cigarette lighter plug and splice in a powerlet plug to make it easier I guess. Although I do like the idea of hard wiring it in. Gonna think on it. Thanks for the links and advice! much appreciated!
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Old 12-31-2013, 11:59 AM   #19337
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Thanks guys! All makes sense......not sure what route I want to take yet because I won't have the GPS on the bike ALL the time, I may just cut off the Cigarette lighter plug and splice in a powerlet plug to make it easier I guess. Although I do like the idea of hard wiring it in. Gonna think on it. Thanks for the links and advice! much appreciated!
Careful with that. I'm pretty sure there's a power regulator circuit in the plug portion of that cable (the MC cable has it in the in-line box, I believe). Connect the wire with 12V running through it to the Zumo and you may very well fry it. You're better off adding the Powerlet plug to the MC cable.
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Old 12-31-2013, 12:41 PM   #19338
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Careful with that. I'm pretty sure there's a power regulator circuit in the plug portion of that cable (the MC cable has it in the in-line box, I believe). Connect the wire with 12V running through it to the Zumo and you may very well fry it. You're better off adding the Powerlet plug to the MC cable.
Ahhhh...yeah you are right and I didn't think of that! Good catch! I think I will just get the MC cable harness and wire it straight to the Battery with some ring terminals as the GPS won't be in the cradle unless I need it will come off for overnight stays, etc.
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:42 PM   #19339
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Guys I have a GPS Question. I am thinking about getting a Zumo 390 with a Touratech handlebar mount set up and I was wondering how you guys wired your GPS's up on the Tiger 800? I was thinking about using the powerlet outlet next to the ignition (assuming I would need some parts?) but not sure that is even an option. I see you can also get a power cable set up. If you go that route do you go straight to the battery? Just curious what my options are here. This will be on a 2013 roadie....
I have just wired mine in to my new 2014 roadie. I installed a fuse box from Easter Beaver in the tail section and wired the GPS into that.

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Old 12-31-2013, 08:04 PM   #19340
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I wired my Zumo to an angle Powerlet plug. It takes 12v directly. The angle plug has a rubber grommet to keep it watertight too.
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Old 01-01-2014, 08:28 AM   #19341
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Guys I have a GPS Question. I am thinking about getting a Zumo 390 with a Touratech handlebar mount set up and I was wondering how you guys wired your GPS's up on the Tiger 800? I was thinking about using the powerlet outlet next to the ignition (assuming I would need some parts?) but not sure that is even an option. I see you can also get a power cable set up. If you go that route do you go straight to the battery? Just curious what my options are here. This will be on a 2013 roadie....
I have the Zumo 550 with an SAE plug and SAE to Cig lighter plug as I switch it between 3 bikes. Powerlet from outlet near the ignition to twin cig lighter sockets mounted on the risers lets me power the GPS and Sat Radio at same time.
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Old 01-01-2014, 10:45 PM   #19342
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I'm between the 1190 and 1200gs. I may hold off and see what the new GSA costs... Today I'm leaning heavy towards the KTM. But, ask me again tomorrow!
My Tiger is gone also and a deposit has been made on a KTM 1190 ADV. The 800XC is a fantastic bike....you won't ever hear me bad mouth it. But after 2 years and 20k miles I found I was looking for more power and better handling in the twisties. The squid in me is looking forward to 150hp w/traction control and I hope some of KTM's offroad legacy is found in the new 1190 ADV. Time will tell. Like the Tiger did, the 1190 will have a lot more dirt capability than me.

Here's a thank you to all that provided your insight on the 800XC.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:44 AM   #19343
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My Tiger is gone also and a deposit has been made on a KTM 1190 ADV. The 800XC is a fantastic bike....you won't ever hear me bad mouth it. But after 2 years and 20k miles I found I was looking for more power and better handling in the twisties. The squid in me is looking forward to 150hp w/traction control and I hope some of KTM's offroad legacy is found in the new 1190 ADV. Time will tell. Like the Tiger did, the 1190 will have a lot more dirt capability than me.

Here's a thank you to all that provided your insight on the 800XC.
My vote would be 1190 or WC GS. I'd probly lean to the KTM - just get the 'R' version if you're gonna ride it off pavement.
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:51 AM   #19344
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My vote would be 1190 or WC GS. I'd probly lean to the KTM - just get the 'R' version if you're gonna ride it off pavement FAST.

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Old 01-03-2014, 05:54 AM   #19345
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My vote would be 1190 or WC GS. I'd probly lean to the KTM - just get the 'R' version if you're gonna ride it off pavement.
For those of you going to either the WC GS or 1190 I am curious about something.

I have ridden both bikes and in my mind they are GREAT machines! Just amazing machines!

Granted I have some small 'cheap' DS bikes that I usually take on my knarly adventures that usually involve lots of mud, rocks, sand, and water. However my Strom has been known to make an appearance on some of those same paths (not often I grant you that and usually because I have lost my mind at some point during the day) on street orientated Battlewing tires. When this happens I am usually assured that both the Strom and I will be taking a nap at some point in the ride. Maybe better tires would help but I can say it is not as easy to take a 400+ lb bike through stuff like that.

I can see myself doing that same thing with a Tiger 800XC and maybe not struggling as much - the jury is still out on that.

The same goes for the 1190 and WC GS except for the fact that given the $$ invested into those machines I know I would think long and hard about crossing a creek that I have not been across before or trying to blast through a large mud puddle on a whim. In the end I think I would play it safe and not really enjoy the bikes since I would be afraid of loosing a good part of my treasure if something bad should happen.

Any one as messed up as I am?
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:03 AM   #19346
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For those of you going to either the WC GS or 1190 I am curious about something.

I have ridden both bikes and in my mind they are GREAT machines! Just amazing machines!

Granted I have some small 'cheap' DS bikes that I usually take on my knarly adventures that usually involve lots of mud, rocks, sand, and water. However my Strom has been known to make an appearance on some of those same paths (not often I grant you that and usually because I have lost my mind at some point during the day) on street orientated Battlewing tires. When this happens I am usually assured that both the Strom and I will be taking a nap at some point in the ride. Maybe better tires would help but I can say it is not as easy to take a 400+ lb bike through stuff like that.

I can see myself doing that same thing with a Tiger 800XC and maybe not struggling as much - the jury is still out on that.

The same goes for the 1190 and WC GS except for the fact that given the $$ invested into those machines I know I would think long and hard about crossing a creek that I have not been across before or trying to blast through a large mud puddle on a whim. In the end I think I would play it safe and not really enjoy the bikes since I would be afraid of loosing a good part of my treasure if something bad should happen.

Any one as messed up as I am?
I'm in complete agreement but have to accept that there are people with a lot more money than me that are willing to accept that sort of loss.
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:11 AM   #19347
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For those of you going to either the WC GS or 1190 I am curious about something.

I have ridden both bikes and in my mind they are GREAT machines! Just amazing machines!

Granted I have some small 'cheap' DS bikes that I usually take on my knarly adventures that usually involve lots of mud, rocks, sand, and water. However my Strom has been known to make an appearance on some of those same paths (not often I grant you that and usually because I have lost my mind at some point during the day) on street orientated Battlewing tires. When this happens I am usually assured that both the Strom and I will be taking a nap at some point in the ride. Maybe better tires would help but I can say it is not as easy to take a 400+ lb bike through stuff like that.

I can see myself doing that same thing with a Tiger 800XC and maybe not struggling as much - the jury is still out on that.

The same goes for the 1190 and WC GS except for the fact that given the $$ invested into those machines I know I would think long and hard about crossing a creek that I have not been across before or trying to blast through a large mud puddle on a whim. In the end I think I would play it safe and not really enjoy the bikes since I would be afraid of loosing a good part of my treasure if something bad should happen.

Any one as messed up as I am?

I made my mind up last night... I'm going the GS route. I'll go sign the papers today.

I think that you are referring to skill/comfortabiltiy (and some stupidity). Not saying that some with skills won't sit back and watch just because they don't want to get their bike dirty. When I buy a motorcycle I plan to ride it off-road more than on. Key word is "plan". I already have it in my mind that it will see roads that most will not take it on. I grew up on a dirt bike. I'm more comfortable off-road than on. This is my 5th street legal motorcycle and I'm still trying to get comfortable when leaned over in a curve. This is much like the argument of oil. No one ever wins and the opinions continue to flow. Besides, when it's all said and done... it's just a motorcycle. Everything on it is replaceable. I also think you would be very suprised of the capability with the right person in the riders seat.

I will know more later in the year, but the main reason I'm jumping ship is that there isn't enough motor in the Tiger XC. Sometimes the power is what I need. I found myself needing that extra 400 or so cc's. Getting the front wheel light on the XC is near impossible while off-road. The torque is just not there. I'm hoping the combination of more power and torque, will help me be even more comfortable off-road. My opinion of course. I ride with another guy that is an old road racer. He absolutley loves the XC. I don't think he's found one thing he doesn't like.

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I'm in complete agreement but have to accept that there are people with a lot more money than me that are willing to accept that sort of loss.
Yeah, not so much my problem. I'm in the stupidity category.
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:25 AM   #19349
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I made my mind up last night... I'm going the GS route. I'll go sign the papers today.

I think that you are referring to skill/comfortabiltiy (and some stupidity). Not saying that some with skills won't sit back and watch just because they don't want to get their bike dirty. When I buy a motorcycle I plan to ride it off-road more than on. Key word is "plan". I already have it in my mind that it will see roads that most will not take it on. I grew up on a dirt bike. I'm more comfortable off-road than on. This is my 5th street legal motorcycle and I'm still trying to get comfortable when leaned over in a curve. This is much like the argument of oil. No one ever wins and the opinions continue to flow. Besides, when it's all said and done... it's just a motorcycle. Everything on it is replaceable. I also think you would be very suprised of the capability with the right person in the riders seat.

I will know more later in the year, but the main reason I'm jumping ship is that there isn't enough motor in the Tiger XC. Sometimes the power is what I need. I found myself needing that extra 400 or so cc's. Getting the front wheel light on the XC is near impossible while off-road. The torque is just not there. I'm hoping the combination of more power and torque, will help me be even more comfortable off-road. My opinion of course. I ride with another guy that is an old road racer. He absolutley loves the XC. I don't think he's found one thing he doesn't like.

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That GS is a SWEET bike! While it does weigh a bit the weight seems to be carried low and you really don't notice it.

I grew up riding off-road as well but mainly on 2 stroke enduros. Just switching to a 4 stroke DS bike was a big change but that ride on the Beta really won me over.. no need to worry about lifting the front end on that bike!

You are correct that everything is replaceable on the this bike... I know my insurance covers off road mishaps on a couple of my bikes... well at least says it covers but the real truth is when you go to file a claim. The times I put the Strom down I did manage to break a couple of things on the bike but nothing major. However, I never have drowned the bike which would probably be my main concern. Did that to my WR250R in CO this summer and I still have nightmares about it but the bike seems to be over it.

In my case I think the big bike would still be relegated to more street than dirt but I like the option to take the road less traveled. I suspect this year my big bike will be an 800XC.
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Old 01-03-2014, 07:43 AM   #19350
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More power to you!

That GS is a SWEET bike! While it does weigh a bit the weight seems to be carried low and you really don't notice it.
I'm on an XC and my buddy rides a GS with me on lots of off road technical terrain. He did the 21" front wheel conversion and major weight reduction. Not sure if it weighs in less than my XC, but it sure feels like it does.
Good luck with the GS and have fun putting it through the paces
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