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Old 07-01-2014, 07:31 AM   #20596
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I fail to see how it could possibly save any time. The tank has to come off every 6,000 miles anyway. When you re-install the tank, put a fresh air filter in it. That's it. It only takes 20-30 seconds to change the filter on the Tiger. Just put a new one in when putting it all back together.

Every 6,000 miles the throttle bodies should be checked, cleaned and adjusted. 6,000 miles later the valves need to be checked and the plugs replaced. Obviously the air filter needs to come out to do that. The Uni-Filter doesn't change that. Where is the time savings?

The XC is an adventure TOURING bike, not a dirt bike. If owners operated the bike as it was designed, the filter should easily go that far without plugging. I run mine in a extremely high dust environment and the filter doesn't get plugged. Show me a stock filter that got plugged in less than 6,000 miles and I'll show you a guy who can't tell the difference between a dirt bike and a touring bike.

I go through $800+ worth of tires annually and still have time to do the service on it myself. A Uni-filter would not save me a second. It might save me $35 in air filters....maybe.

The Uni-Filter is an expensive fix to a problem that does not exist.
This is a 4 day old filter *before* I installed a UNI pre-filter.



and yes I know the Tiger is NOT a dirt bike. That trip was TOURING on roads like this...




which is exactly what the Tiger was designed for. With the pre-filter installed, I can now do what you suggest, change my air filter every 6000 miles. Do your touring on the pavement if you like, but some of use like to explore a bit and the Tiger does that very well, when properly equipped.
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Old 07-01-2014, 09:03 AM   #20597
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Use the front marker light (sits at bottom of headlamp enclosure.)
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Easy place to get low amp power - my GPS is connected here, works great. Have done several bikes like this.

If you trace back to the quick connector you can pop the brass connector blade out and solder your power lead to it, reinsert into the connector. Tidy and secure.
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:36 AM   #20598
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I live, commute, ride and tour on gravel roads and have never had a filter plug.

A dirty air filter is a filter that is working and doing it's job.

The Uni-Filter is still a waste of time and money.
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Old 07-01-2014, 10:44 AM   #20599
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I live, commute, ride and tour on gravel roads and have never had a filter plug.

A dirty air filter is a filter that is working and doing it's job.

The Uni-Filter is still a waste of time and money
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These 2 statements are totally at odds with each other.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:11 AM   #20600
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Forgive me my ignorance, but if I may ask couple of questions...
1. UNI is pre-cleaner, right? And it must be oiled now and then, e.g. main filter still need changes?
2. Does it not restrict intake at high rpms? Did anyone checked for it?
1, correct and correct. But no, with the Uni filter fitted the filter inside MY airbox has stayed completely clean.
2, Not in my experience. Still got the same size hole going into the airbox.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:20 AM   #20601
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A dirty air filter is a filter that is working and doing it's job.

The Uni-Filter is still a waste of time and money.
First statement is wrong. A dirty air filter is a filter that has DONE its job......and probably needs cleaning.

As for the pre-filter being a waste of time and money, well that's your opinion and your choice. My choice is to save money by never having to buy a new filter again which are 25 each over here. If you're a high mileage rider that can make a difference.
Of course, the other advantage of having the pre-filter is that out in the field it can be cleaned easily with some petrol and you then have a nice clean intake again without the need for finding a dealer for a new airbox filter.
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Old 07-01-2014, 11:28 AM   #20602
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Of course, the other advantage of having the pre-filter is that out in the field it can be cleaned easily with some petrol and you then have a nice clean intake again without the need for finding a dealer for a new airbox filter.

That's the real advantage, IMO. Getting to the actual air filter is a bear on lots of bikes.
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Old 07-01-2014, 12:11 PM   #20603
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I live, commute, ride and tour on gravel roads and have never had a filter plug.

A dirty air filter is a filter that is working and doing it's job.

The Uni-Filter is still a waste of time and money.
Just give it a rest, emkay???

You don't need to have one on your bike, the rest of us have put them to good use. This discussion is going nowhere.

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Old 07-01-2014, 12:14 PM   #20604
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These 2 statements are totally at odds with each other.
How so?

Is it not the filters job to collect and trap dirt?
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Old 07-01-2014, 01:33 PM   #20605
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Just give it a rest, emkay???

You don't need to have one on your bike, the rest of us have put them to good use. This discussion is going nowhere.

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Old 07-01-2014, 01:44 PM   #20606
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How so?

Is it not the filters job to collect and trap dirt?
Correct, which is what this filter did...

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this on day 4 of a 2 week trip. Cleaning and re-oiling the pre-filter is a relaxing 20-30 minute job in the hotel parking lot. Waiting for an air filter to be shipped in the middle of a trip is not great planning nor productive. Sure I could carry a spare air filter with me, but that would have simply gotten me another 4 days, then what do I do. We don't have a lot of dealers here in Canada and 2 out of the 3 times I've gone to buy a filter, they had to order one in. My closest Triumph dealer is 2 hours away, from home. Closest dealer during that ride was 5-6 hours away for the first few days, then more like 8-10 hours away for the rest of the trip.

That's great if you never get your filter dirty, only change it every 6000 miles and have a dealer support truck following you around with spares. That's not my situation.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:10 PM   #20607
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seems pretty self-explanatory....

Unifilter’s NU-3703 is a pre-cleaner designed to replace the original intake snorkel on the 2011 Triumph Tiger 800XC.
This pre-cleaner has two main benefits. The first is to increase the service life of the main filter. This pre-cleaner will remove 95% of the dust before it reaches the main filter. The second benefit of the pre-cleaner is it is easy to remove and service. The main filter is situated under the fuel tank
and is very time consuming to change. This pre-cleaner can be removed and serviced in approximately 10 minutes
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:22 PM   #20608
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In case anyone is still doubting to buy the UNI prefilter:



(Airbox was completely clean, not a speck of dust!)
Looks like you need a Pre-Uni-Filter Filter for your Uni-Filter air filter. According to the people at ADVrider, dirty filters don't trap dirt and will allow dirty air to enter the engine.

I'd contact TouraTrinket. They ought to be able to help. I'd post a link to it but I need to get outside and change my oil filter again. I do that every 150 miles. Dirty filters are bad y'know.
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Old 07-01-2014, 02:40 PM   #20609
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... I'd post a link to it but I need to get outside and change my oil filter again. I do that every 150 miles. Dirty filters are bad y'know.
If you're changing the oil filter every 150 miles, you need one of these. It'll pay for itself in 1k miles...

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Old 07-01-2014, 02:52 PM   #20610
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[QUOTE=lmychajluk;24520468]If you're changing the oil filter every 150 miles, you need one of these. It'll pay for itself in 1k miles...

ya got one.
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