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Old 05-09-2011, 11:02 AM   #5491
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Jesse Bags for the 800

For those interested, I just received the following email from Explorermoto.

"JC, Jesse has a Triumph 800 in the shop as I write this. I saw the mock up last Friday, & the bags look great. Jesse is looking to be in production in 3-4 weeks. We will start with the Odyssey II system, with the Safari's to follow at a later date. Jesse is running some numbers on a cost & will try to keep it in line with the BMW F800GS system at $1195.00. However, the Triumph's exhaust is on the right side which required some retooling & programing, so they might be a little higher in cost."
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:13 AM   #5492
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For those interested, I just received the following email from Explorermoto.

"JC, Jesse has a Triumph 800 in the shop as I write this. I saw the mock up last Friday, & the bags look great. Jesse is looking to be in production in 3-4 weeks. We will start with the Odyssey II system, with the Safari's to follow at a later date. Jesse is running some numbers on a cost & will try to keep it in line with the BMW F800GS system at $1195.00. However, the Triumph's exhaust is on the right side which required some retooling & programing, so they might be a little higher in cost."
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:32 AM   #5493
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Test ride on the XC over the weekend. I LOVED it… dammit. Everything about it, and it fits me like a glove (6'-0" 33" inseam). Severely smitten here.

However, I don't require the XC features. Do I need bother to score a test ride on the standard 800 before placing my order (my dealer doesn't have one). In other words, I'm gonna love the roadie just as much, right?
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Old 05-09-2011, 11:50 AM   #5494
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...I think I would need the "Tall" seat. Has anyone seen one of these yet?
Does Triumph offer a taller seat for both versions of the Tiger? If so, does it also have 2 height settings? Or are we talking aftermarket here?
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:04 PM   #5495
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Test ride on the XC over the weekend. I LOVED it… dammit. Everything about it, and it fits me like a glove (6'-0" 33" inseam). Severely smitten here.

However, I don't require the XC features. Do I need bother to score a test ride on the standard 800 before placing my order (my dealer doesn't have one). In other words, I'm gonna love the roadie just as much, right?

You had better ride the standard 800 first. Make sure it works for you - they are two different bikes - The suspension makes a big difference. I found the standard less than satisfying compared to the XC ... I wouldn't have bought the standard.

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Old 05-09-2011, 12:09 PM   #5496
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I fully understand now why folks call BattleWings "DeathWings." They are absolutely horrible on anything but hardpack dirt roads. They seem to be pretty good on the street, but when I took a telephone road they couldn't handle light gravel or sand. She took a dirt nap because of those @#$% BattleWings!
Trail wings are referred to as Death Wings, not Battle Wings ...
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:34 PM   #5497
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Had my tigi at the first service and when I went to collect her there was something wrong..

It's idling ok and while twisting the throtle rough she surely revs ok.
The problem occurs when you slowly turn off the play from the gas and give a "tender" twist on the throtle then she'll stall..

First one on the line of fire is the throtle position sensor. They'll replace it over the weekend and I'm hoping that it will cure my sweet little kitten.

Next time you stand beside you bike take a look at the throtle bodies from the RH side of the bike and try to figure the easiest way to remove the tps
Finaly at friday I got the message from my local dealer that there's a re-assembled venom yellow tiger standing at their parking lot.
Unfortunately they were not able to solve the problem
Today I went back to place an order for an ECU. Basicly everything else has been replaced from the fuel supply and it still doesn't run properly.

Not quite sure how long it's going to take to get a new ECU but hopefully it's going to fix the fuel supply problems assuming that the problem is at the fuel supply...
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:48 PM   #5498
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Today I went back to place an order for an ECU. Basicly everything else has been replaced from the fuel supply and it still doesn't run properly.
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You aren't paying for it are you?
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Old 05-09-2011, 01:49 PM   #5499
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Does Triumph offer a taller seat for both versions of the Tiger? If so, does it also have 2 height settings? Or are we talking aftermarket here?
The seats fit either version of the bike. I haven't seen the taller seat but have to assume it is the same as the lower seat which means it would have the two height settings.
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Old 05-09-2011, 02:24 PM   #5500
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Your thoughts: XC on the freeway

I've not yet been able to take a test ride on an 800 XC, which I'm looking pretty seriously at.

But for those of you who have settled into your bikes now, how do you find your XC on the freeway for longer rides? I know of the various responses about buffeting, but are you getting enough wind protection so that you don't feel that you have to strain to hold on, etc?

Does anybody with BMW R*GS experience have thoughts on how the Tiger compares with respect to the freeway drone capability? (The 1150GS Adv I had was surprisingly good at this, after replacing a seat and windscreen as you do on pretty much any bike you're eating miles with).

Thanks for your input!
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:04 PM   #5501
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Does anybody with BMW R*GS experience have thoughts on how the Tiger compares with respect to the freeway drone capability? (The 1150GS Adv I had was surprisingly good at this, after replacing a seat and windscreen as you do on pretty much any bike you're eating miles with).
I haven't bought a T800 (yet), but I have ridden various GS models for long distances and took an extensive test ride on a T800.

While I'm sure it will vary with each rider's priorities and preference, I think most would find a T800 considerably less capable in true long-distance "drone" mode vs. something like a GS. My impression of the Tiger on my hour+ test ride (with 30 min on the freeway) was of a very light and nimble bike that was a joy in the twisties, but also a bike that had very little wind protection, not a whole lot of high-gear cruising RPM power, a somewhat stiff and non-compliant suspension that didn't to very well on things like freeway expansion joints, and much less overall stability than a telelever BMW. And, of course, less "road hugging" weight.

The weather protection issue may be somewhat fixable by a bigger screen, but my experience is that big screens on small bikes without much fairing is that you end up with a lot more buffeting and less ability to deal with any kind of crosswind.

All bikes are tradeoffs and I loved the Tiger. But I don't think it is a great droner. YMMV.

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Old 05-09-2011, 04:31 PM   #5502
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Quick mod - Givi monokey plate

I wanted a hard case on my 800xc quickly for commuter duty. Since I already have several Givi cases around, I ended up pulling a Givi plate (part Z255) off my XR650L and bolting it directly on top of the stock plastic rear rack. I used two 45mm socket head bolts, two washers ground to fit the slot in the Givi plate, some 1/2" tall nylon spacers (which I nested inside each other to get the ID and OD I wanted), and four washers to sandwhich the spacers.

This was sturdy enough for commuting but I wouldn't want to really hammer this setup off road with something heavy in the case.




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Old 05-09-2011, 04:37 PM   #5503
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Thanks for pointing that out Jim.
I attended an intro event for the Uly some years ago and got to hear Erik himself explain just how different his Uly was from a Harley. Would take a page to run it all down .... but one quick blast on one is really all you need for an I.Q. update. No real connection IMHO to your typical HD.

Once you get used to all the Buell quirks ... it's a great bike. Such a shame HD big wigs pulled the plug. The Buell has a very different character from the Tiger ... 180 degrees ... but ALL GOOD in it's own way.
And it's that diversity that everyone should be thankful for.
Splitin hairs! I'm well aware Buells are vasly different, but they were undeniably part of the Harley family. I've always wondered what would have happened if Buell could have found some other funding. I think a DL1K motor in a Uly would be very very good.
I'm mostly just frustrated after reading all the posts from guys who walked in a bought a Tiger while I've been waiting 4 months.
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:42 PM   #5504
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Very timely. I'm looking to do the same kind of thing since it looks like it might be a few weeks until Motech gets its act together with the top rack. I ordered the Givi universal mounting plate for monokey cases (which I use successfully on my 1050 Tiger) and I will try to see if I can mount it directly as you have, or if that doesn't look doable, to have a plate fabricated to put the Givi mount onto which then bolts onto the bike using the 4 mount points that are already there.

It doesn't seem like the stock plastic rack can really take any significant weight since there's not really anything underneath it. Are you mounting it using the stock holes drilled into the rear subframe or are you just mounting it to the stock rear rack?
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Old 05-09-2011, 04:46 PM   #5505
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$12 rear rack

I wanted a wider rear rack that would support things like tents and dry bags a little better but I could also use my Givi adapter plate (see above post) for when I want a top case.

The aftermarket is still pretty scarce on racks and I didn't feel like spending the money on a Touratech or Happy Trail quite yet so decided to go the cheap route.

I bought a 14" by 17" black plastic cutting board at Target for $12:


I figured out the pattern I wanted to go around the love handles:


I used a fine tooth finishing blade in my table saw, some files, and a sanding block to get it cut out and smoothed up. The plastic melts pretty good when you're cutting, but it worked out.


For mounting just the rack, I used 40mm SS button head bolts, fender washers, and 1/2" tall nested spacers sandwiched between washers.


Here's the rack mounted w/o the Givi plate:






I replace the two rear bolts with 50mm long socket heads and the Givi plate mounts on. Much sturdier now that it's sitting on top of the new rack:


At some point I'll get out the drill and jigsaw and make some tie down holes or slots if I think I need them.
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