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Old 05-13-2011, 06:05 AM   #5581
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yep....
Um, you may have to bear with me, but I cant read what you are saying.

What do you mean by "unless this bike is set up for riders to use their ABS off road"?

Simply, ABS can be turned off at will as far as I'm aware. I'm not sure what setup would be required.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:20 AM   #5582
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Um, you may have to bear with me, but I cant read what you are saying.

What do you mean by "unless this bike is set up for riders to use their ABS off road"?

Simply, ABS can be turned off at will as far as I'm aware. I'm not sure what setup would be required.
Motorcycles like the Super Tenere are set up to use the ABS off road, indeed Yamaha says so, and there is in fact no off switch for the ABS. The T800XC is not designed to work with the ABS on when riding off road, thus the off function that can be accessed through the computer on the Triumph.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:25 AM   #5583
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Motorcycles like the Super Tenere are set up to use the ABS off road, indeed Yamaha says so, and there is in fact no off switch for the ABS. The T800XC is not designed to work with the ABS on when riding off road, thus the off function that can be accessed through the computer on the Triumph.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:25 AM   #5584
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By the way, not sure if anyone knows how the off road ability of the Tenere ABS system works. Understandably, Yamaha has been tight lipped about all that is involved.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:36 AM   #5585
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Um, you may have to bear with me, but I cant read what you are saying.

What do you mean by "unless this bike is set up for riders to use their ABS off road"?

Simply, ABS can be turned off at will as far as I'm aware. I'm not sure what setup would be required.
I am not techie but only certain bikes or should I say bike as stated like the Yamaha are meant to use ABS off road...not sure what technology they use but as for bikes like the Tiger and Beemer GS family ABS is a NO NO off road, hence why they have the ability to turn off...don't have to trust me....use the ABS you will see....
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:44 AM   #5586
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I am not techie but only certain bikes or should I say bike as stated like the Yamaha are meant to use ABS off road...not sure what technology they use but as for bikes like the Tiger and Beemer GS family ABS is a NO NO off road, hence why they have the ability to turn off...don't have to trust me....use the ABS you will see....
I dont have ABS on my XC. Dont want it.

If you need it offroad, I'd re-evaluate going offroad. No electronic aids can replace skill & experience.
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:45 AM   #5587
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Take notes, this guy did his homework.
You mean the countless thousands of hours I spend dicking around reading this crappola is starting to pay off?
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:46 AM   #5588
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I am simply giddy with this purchase. No buyers remorse here!

Yep, agreed 100%. Simply fantastic motorcycle.

I'm headed out after work today on a trip that could end up being anywhere from 4000-6500 miles, depending on what route we end up taking (depends on the weather, the Mississippi flooding, and how we're feeling when we get to the end of the Natchez Trace Parkway). So in two weeks I'll be able to report what it's like to tour on an XC.

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Old 05-13-2011, 06:50 AM   #5589
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I dont have ABS on my XC. Dont want it.

If you need it offroad, I'd re-evaluate going offroad. No electronic aids can replace skill & experience.
ABS rocks on the road...has saved my butt many times in emergency stops etc...I commute everyday to work...110 KM round trip and I always say someone is out to get me each day I ride to work...the ABS has kept my wheels from locking up and keeps the bike standing tall and straight...to each their own...I am a huge fan now having ABS on bikes and would not ride one without ABS unless it was a pure dirt bike.

And we do not need electronic aids off road...our skill is just fine...love the electronic aids on the tar...that is what the ABS is for on these types of bikes.

Mark have a great trip...look forward to hearing how you LOVE the bike after you get to really test it out! Stay safe!
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Old 05-13-2011, 06:57 AM   #5590
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Mark I am only 90 miles from Natchez here in Baton Rouge. Let me know when you will be there and I'll buy you lunch at The Pig Out Inn, or Fat Mamma's Tamales.

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Old 05-13-2011, 06:57 AM   #5591
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ABS rocks on the road...has saved my butt many times in emergency stops etc...I commute everyday to work...110 KM round trip and I always say someone is out to get me each day I ride to work...the ABS has kept my wheels from locking up and keeps the bike standing tall and straight...to each their own...I am a huge fan now having ABS on bikes and would not ride one without ABS unless it was a pure dirt bike.

And we do not need electronic aids off road...our skill is just fine...love the electronic aids on the tar...that is what the ABS is for on these types of bikes.
Yeah yeah, I'm just messing about. I agree, it can be great. I just find it a little intrusive when having fun. I dont commute much on it. But I would want a feature to turn it off fully on any bike.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:11 AM   #5592
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Not sure if shipping would be prohibitve for you guys, but this company do alu panniers and racks for the Tiger in the UK:

http://www.stahlkoffer.com/images/galleries/tiger.php
I like those but $900 US before shipping for just the panniers & racks.
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Old 05-13-2011, 07:15 AM   #5593
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Yep, agreed 100%. Simply fantastic motorcycle.

I'm headed out after work today on a trip that could end up being anywhere from 4000-6500 miles, depending on what route we end up taking (depends on the weather, the Mississippi flooding, and how we're feeling when we get to the end of the Natchez Trace Parkway). So in two weeks I'll be able to report what it's like to tour on an XC.

Packed and ready to go:

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Mark,

Good luck on the trip!! Ride safe and have fun. I hope you guys make it out west as I know you'll love it. My bike got packed up on the moving van this morning and will be on it's way back to Arizona and we are leaving next Thursday.

I'll send you a pm with my contact info just in case you guys get in a spot of trouble and need help.

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Old 05-13-2011, 08:19 AM   #5594
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Like I said in my original post, the abs off road will be an experiment. I was simply amazed with the straight line stopping distance and control on gravel with abs on. I know when I want it off and that is on the gnarly stuff I will be taking this bike to. I am a fairly accomplished off road rider and I know when I need my tires to stop spinning. Just saying for gravel highway, fire road, and two track, maybe there are benefits. I'm tellin ya I couldn't stop my klr under the same conditions as quickly as I did with the triumph. Scientific tests are in order. I'm without my bike for six weeks cause I'm away on contract work, but tests with data will be presented later this summer if the debate continues to rage.

Also, I ride a ton off road and my air filter will have to be cleaned/changed waaaay sooner than 12k mikes. I am not with my bike and haven't seen the filter, cleanable or cartridge style? If cartridge, think someone will make a cleanable, oilable, and reusable filter?
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:20 AM   #5595
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Mark,

Good luck on the trip!! Ride safe and have fun. I hope you guys make it out west as I know you'll love it. My bike got packed up on the moving van this morning and will be on it's way back to Arizona and we are leaving next Thursday.

I'll send you a pm with my contact info just in case you guys get in a spot of trouble and need help.

Russ
Sounds great, Russ, thanks. Good luck with the move, and get that bike back into working order!

All the best!

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