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Old 05-13-2011, 12:25 PM   #5641
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Might just be me, but I think this looks awful:



It really seems that in today's world, pannier manufacturers need to pair up with exhaust guys to get something useful out the door.
Ahhh, like Jesse luggage who wraps the racks and boxes around the pipes. You pay for it, though...
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:59 PM   #5642
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Perhaps the first 800 XC sold in Oregon stopped by the shop for a test fitting.

Fandango Tank Bag and Great Basin saddle bag fit really well. If it were me, I'd pull those passenger grab bars off for a bigger range of adjustment of the saddle bag, although it looks like they're there to help defend the bike in a crash.



Very trim -



The stock heat shielding is perfect and the passenger footrest brackets make a very solid lower connection point.



This customer is a very fast rider, knows how to pack (like for back packing) and wanted to try the Coyote on for size. With everything stock, including the passenger grab bars - the Coyote actually fit very well.




Even more svelte!



The rear connection fit on the pillion seat perfectly but if he decides to use this connection, he's going to wrap this portion of the seat with an inner tube.





So that's what he ended up taking - Fandango Tank Bag and a white Coyote!

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:08 PM   #5643
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I installed my centerstand last night. I would suggest letting a dealer install it for you. There is one screw that attaches the S bracket & it's a PITA to get tight. Also, the pivot retainers are a PITA to get seated. It's defiantly doable, put you better have a lot of tools & more patience.
When I picked my Tiger up the techs were all sweaty and flustered from putting mine on. Said that kickstand was a real bear to mount.

It works very well though!!!
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:10 PM   #5644
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Hey Mark, looks like you have the Triumph centerstand. I have one on order. Sounds like a few people have had issues with theirs. Any issues with yours? Overall impression of it?
No issues, and it works well. It's actually pretty close to the balance point, so lifting the front wheel is as easy as lightly lifting on one of the fork legs, or putting a little weight on the back of the bike.

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Old 05-13-2011, 01:19 PM   #5645
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Ahhh, like Jesse luggage who wraps the racks and boxes around the pipes. You pay for it, though...
Was more thinking along the lines of Metal Mule (different, narrower exhaust) or Micatech V-Pilot/Pilot (unobtrusive mounting system, potentially different exhaust).

I've used a narrow exhaust on my GS to get two same sized panniers on very unobtrusive mounts (V-Pilot). Today's OEM exhausts on dual sport bikes are laughably huge. The Hattech I installed is quieter than the OEM and looks like half the size:



If I had a Tiger 800 (and I really like to add one to the stable), I'd bug Metal Mule and other exhaust manufacturers to come up with something really narrow to be used with an aftermarket pannier set.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:21 PM   #5646
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No issues, and it works well. It's actually pretty close to the balance point, so lifting the front wheel is as easy as lightly lifting on one of the fork legs, or putting a little weight on the back of the bike.

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Thanks mark, that's good news... and based on the comments regarding installation, I'm almost excited for that challenge.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:26 PM   #5647
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I put about 20 miles on an 800XC on Saturday, impressions?

Love the motor, it's electric in it's smoothness and torque.

I'd appreciate a bit more legroom, had seat on high and the peg rubbers out but I think I would need the "Tall" seat. Has anyone seen one of these yet?

More heat coming off the motor than my TDM.

I'd have to do something with the handle bars. Higher, straighter and further fwd.

Oil leak evident off the front of the head and something from the rear as well.

Yes, I heard the burble from the exhaust as well, not sure if this bothers me, though I would want the Arrow exhaust or something aftermarket anyway.
Anybody notice this noise with the Arrow?

More later

I too found the heat was very noticeable in city driving / slow speeds ,, I do not were riding gear.. ie just Levis and jacket. temp outside was 75 degrees out. but the slow riding was hot. 45 to 60 mph you don't feel it. but slow was hot,, heat on the legs , also i was using lot's of 1 and 2 nd gear to get a feel for engine vib's ,, did't feel any until into the 7000 and up ,,but i'll never ride in that range.
60 mph was like 4000 or something , as other people said the motor is sweet. way much power then what i'm used too ,,, makes my old 750 feel like a lawnmower
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:40 PM   #5648
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Ahhh, like Jesse luggage who wraps the racks and boxes around the pipes. You pay for it, though...
but the Jesse luggage looks so good and even is practical/waterproof...we LOVE them on our Beemers.
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:43 PM   #5649
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I seem to remember the same debate in cars when abs first came out. Everybody thought they were a better driver than a computer. Turns out data doesn't lie and cars stop way sooner with abs vs without no matter what the surface.

I challenge all of you, pro abs and anti abs to do some testing and take some measurements. 65 mph to zero on a gravel road. Take measurements and report your results. I'd do it and love doing it, but my bike is 900 miles away. If it turns out abs stops in a shorter distance, make intelligent arguments as to why you would rather stop in a greater distance.

Please keep in mind that my abs WILL be turned off when riding in any area where I would have to lock the brakes for any reason. I am making the pro abs argument for good gravel, fire road, and good two track.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:12 PM   #5650
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Perhaps the first 800 XC sold in Oregon stopped by the shop for a test fitting.
Your bags rock. If I could afford an 800, I wouldn't hesitate to sling my Great Basin on the back seat and rack up some serious mileage. Thanks for posting the photos.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:55 PM   #5651
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Your bags rock. If I could afford an 800, I wouldn't hesitate to sling my Great Basin on the back seat and rack up some serious mileage. Thanks for posting the photos.
+1. I'm so done with heavy aluminum clunk hanging off the back of my bike. I suppose it looks cool, and your stuff is certainly safer, but I've never had anyone muck around with my parked bike. The only thing that keeps me from the fandango is I like a small pocket on the outside for small "stuff". Anything in the works? I especially like seeing the bags on a white XC since that's what I have coming! All 3 of my bikes will be white now, none of which was planned. I guess it was meant to be!
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:09 PM   #5652
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Fandango Tank Bag and Great Basin saddle bag fit really well. If it were me, I'd pull those passenger grab bars off for a bigger range of adjustment of the saddle bag, although it looks like they're there to help defend the bike in a crash.
The stock heat shielding is perfect and the passenger footrest brackets make a very solid lower connection point.
Nice bags ... I like the tank bag best. Nice size.

The loop bag looks very lightly loaded. I'd like to see how it works on a rough road when jam packed the way most end up doing going on the road with camping gear. Seems like you'd have to balance the load left to right or risk things shifting and sagging on one side. These bags look good for clothes and light, unbreakable stuff. But on longer, more serious rides I'm not sure how things would survive dumped down in one of the low hangin lobes. Also, when heavy, the side lobes will most likely put Pressure on the pipe and shield. OEM Stainless pipes get very very hot. I've set a few bags on fire .... so that's why I ask.
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Old 05-13-2011, 03:40 PM   #5653
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Was more thinking along the lines of Metal Mule (different, narrower exhaust) or Micatech V-Pilot/Pilot (unobtrusive mounting system, potentially different exhaust).

I've used a narrow exhaust on my GS to get two same sized panniers on very unobtrusive mounts (V-Pilot). Today's OEM exhausts on dual sport bikes are laughably huge. The Hattech I installed is quieter than the OEM and looks like half the size:



If I had a Tiger 800 (and I really like to add one to the stable), I'd bug Metal Mule and other exhaust manufacturers to come up with something really narrow to be used with an aftermarket pannier set.
Those exhausts are nice!
Tiger 1050 owners have done a similar thing to allow use of the close fitting OEM panniers. Someone is making a rack that allows use of the LEFT side box ... on the right side. This requires either lowering the stock pipe or buying an aftermarket pipe that is either lower or narrower than stock.
Here is stock, notice the gap for the pipe similar to Tiger 800:


T800 Tiger with factory panniers. Pretty big gap between pipe and pannier ... even smaller bag as a result. A low pipe or narrower pipe could help.

Here is the left side pannier fitted to right side. Stock pipe is used here. Very well balanced and easy mod.
The stock Triumph panniers fit closer by far than any aftermarket box, and fit the shape and style of the bike unlike any aftermarket product.

I'm quite sure someone will undertake to make this same mod happen on the new T800 and XC.

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Old 05-13-2011, 03:47 PM   #5654
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Giant Loop Bags

Just to clarify, for those who are interested: You must pay close attention, the first three pictures were the Great Basin bag, the next five were the Coyote bag. Two different bags, pretty big difference in size. Hoping to avoid confusion among possible customers.
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:49 PM   #5655
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I personally don't care for hard bags. I've been rocking the Wolfman Expedition dry bag only on the tail for 9000 miles now. I love it! Had panniers and ran over my leg one time and that was it.

I really really like the giant loop product. My little brother just went on a ds ride out of Bend, OR last weekend and everyone was rockin the great basin. People sure seem to love it. It is on the list for the tiger. A few questions...

Can it be strapped over the grab bars so a passenger can be carried?

Is the Great Basin one big cavern or are there partitions that prevent things from getting squished at the bottom of the sides?
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