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Old 05-20-2011, 01:02 PM   #5791
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I was at the Triumph Demo event this morning in Akron, Ohio. I rode the 800xc. The 15-20 minute loop totally sucked. Other than the intersections, we only encountered 1 real curve. The posted limit on the whole route was 35 mph. WTF kind of demo loop is that? At the beginning of the ride, as we were crawling through the parking lot, I was standing on the pegs to assess the standup ergos and general balance (trials slow). I was quickly "advised" by the one of the staff members that standing was not allowed. WTF, are you serious??

I was not overly impressed with the suspension. It would soak up the broken pavement reasonably well, although it felt a little harsh on some of the bigger sharp edge stuff (potholes). Somehow I managed to drag the toe of my boot on a right hand intersection turn. That was a real shocker considering I thought this bike had more clearance than my DL650, although my suspension is heavily modified. The shock preload must have been dialed all the way out (I weight 220 lbs), or the shock spring is simply too light. There was a good amount of dive under braking, similar to a KTM Adventure. I suspect the fork springs are pretty light (like most stock suspensions). There was way more dive than my modified DL650 forks.

On the plus side, I thought the bike felt very light and turn in was extremely easy. This was the best thing about the bike, IMO. The ergos were decent, although the seat has quite a slant when set to the tall position, pushing my junk into the seat and tank The seat height could have been higher for me still (I'm 6'3" with a 34" inseem).

The motor is very smooth, even at very low revs. It has a lot of low end torque, but I was shocked how docile it was in the mid-range. I guess I expected mid-range power delivery closer to my old 950 Adventure or FZ1. The power delivery would be great for offroad riding, but it's not inspiring as a street bike. I can't really comment on the top end, thanks to the super shitty, traffic laden, demo route. Perhaps my opinion of the motor would change if I had an opportunity to wind it out a bit more.

There was a rattling noise from the motor or exhaust upon deceleration. I've read about this from other users. Wonder what's going on with that?? The exhaust note was very quiet. I bet it would sound sweet with an aftermarket can
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Old 05-20-2011, 01:13 PM   #5792
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There's a graphite framed black XC for sale, on the floor, at Team Triumph in Janesville, WI. It's the first black framed 800 I've heard of in this part of the world. Who wants it?

Sorry, I forgot to ask if it has ABS.

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Old 05-20-2011, 02:05 PM   #5793
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I was eagerly waiting for the launch all throughout the prolonged hype period and was glad to finally try both models at a dealer demo day a few weeks back. Due to getting lost I got a an extra 30 mins on the road version, but only a short ride on the XC. I absolutely loved it and a Tiger 800 is #1 choice for my next bike.

Road version owners, did the front suspension soften as it broke in?

The XC version has longer travel, but no adjustability up front right?

Basically, if I'm mostly (+90%) on tarmac, is the front suspension difference a good reason to pick the XC instead?

The road version felt quite harsh, the XC seemed plusher but with a bit more brake dive.

Given the rather nice price of the bike, I suppose they had to save it somewhere, but the non-adjustability of the front end is a bit disappointing.
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:31 PM   #5794
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I have 1K miles on my Roadie and it seems less harsh. I also backed out the preload all the way and I added the Triumph bags which I think helps.
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:51 PM   #5795
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I have 1K miles on my Roadie and it seems less harsh.
Perhaps all your teeth are rattled out? Good to know. Aftermarket will catch up anyway, it seems to sell pretty well.

Race Tech didn't much approve of the 1050s setup:


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Fork
The stock fork cartridge on the Tiger is one of the worst designs we've ever seen. The forks cavitate massively and because they push a huge amount of fluid through tiny ports, they are extremely harsh.

Our solution for the forks is the G2-R Fork Gold Valve Kit. The outstanding kit completely replaces the stock compression and rebound mechanisms and in turn makes the forks work awesome. With the G2-R Gold Valve Kit and the proper High Performance Forks Springs installed, the Tiger is completely transformed.

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The rear shock is made of high quality material. The problem is setup. Once the shock Gold Valve Kit and proper spring are installed the shocks performance is as good or better than anything in the world. guaranteed!

For the shock we offer the new G3-LD Shock Gold Valve Kit along with a HP Rear Shock Spring!
http://www.racetech.com/HTML_FILES/triumphtiger.HTML

The 800 isn't in their database just yet, I'm sure it will be soon enough. But da-yum do they need a team of commando web designers to sort out that mess of a site.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:01 PM   #5796
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I don't have enough mileage to know on the forks to know for sure, but they seem to be breaking in quickly.

For me, it was an easy choice rd or xc. I don't want anything to do with tube type tires on a bike that is going to see very little dirt use. When you get a puncture with a tubliss tire it's going to go down slowly, and you can put a plug in it and keep going. On a tube tire, a nail will cause it to go flat very quickly, and often you will have a torn tube. That means carring extra tubes, and having to remove the wheel and dismount the tire for repair. If I was really going to do alot of off rd I'd reconsider, but I have a D/S bike for that.

I traveled plenty of dirt rds with my girlie which had tubliss tires, and it worked just fine. I expect the 800 will be even beter with it's lighter weight and better suspention.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #5797
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There's a graphite framed black XC for sale, on the floor, at Team Triumph in Janesville, WI. It's the first black framed 800 I've heard of in this part of the world. Who wants it?

Sorry, I forgot to ask if it has ABS.
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:38 PM   #5798
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:45 PM   #5799
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Good point on the tubes TooBadBrad. Sells me on the road version. And congrats Meles meles! That lovely color is the only thing that still makes me lust for the XC. I wonder what Triumph has planned for next year...
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:58 PM   #5800
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Picked this up today:

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Old 05-20-2011, 04:19 PM   #5801
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Picked this up today:

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Old 05-20-2011, 04:20 PM   #5802
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WARNING!

"...May lead to instability, loss of motorcycle control and an accident."

This phrase is repeated no less that 137 times in the Triumph Tiger Owner's Manual. I guess riding motorcycles may lead to instability, loss of control and an accident!
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:08 PM   #5803
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Race Tech didn't much approve of the 1050s setup:...
Surprise, surprise, an aftermarket suspension vendor who doesn't think the stock suspension is any good....

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Old 05-20-2011, 06:43 PM   #5804
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For anyone that's interested Frontline Motorsports in Christiansburg Virginia has a white 2012 (dark frame) Tiger 800 on the showroom floor with nobody's name on it.


I had to take my ancient, out of date, 2011 model in for it's break in service today and saw it there.


However if you can stand the wait I'm sure in a couple more weeks they'll have newer 2013 models available.



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Old 05-20-2011, 06:46 PM   #5805
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Picked this up today:

2012 Tiger 800 XC ABS


Looks great!

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