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Old 06-11-2011, 11:54 AM   #6391
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Just got back from test riding a (black framed) white 2012 Tiger 800XC. First off, the engine heat was excessive, especially on this 90+ degree day. Standing on the pegs provided relief, which I did often. The standing position actually felt doable on this bike. I was wearing Mountain Hardware rock climbing pants which are close to Cordura in terms of airflow and abrasion resistance. Riding home from the dealer on my 2005 Girlie Tiger was much cooler and I never felt the need to stand up. Anyway, I was impressed with the engine's grunt and the way the bike felt for our 35+ miles together. I never took it over 5k because its new, but it was easy to tell this mill has plenty of balls for a medium displacement triple. The front end had a very pronounced pogo effect between 35-50 mph, probably from the Bridgestone Battlewing being improperly balanced, which is an easy fix. I hope the dealer took my advice to get it right. The only glaring fault, which is a deal breaker for me, is the tingling through the bars. My throttle hand was asleep by the time I pulled back into the dealer parking lot. I had gone over there fully prepared to write a check for that bike. Today. Anybody else experience this problem?
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:18 PM   #6392
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Why and how would you install cartridge emulators on a bike with cartridge forks?
I think he was referring to former Vstrom.

100% agree on letting the suspension break in for a 1000 miles or so before getting creative ... but after that if it's not right you could:

Do a Re-valve ... could help with harshness/add plushness, improve rebound damping ... all equals better control, more confidence on a bumpy road.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:21 PM   #6393
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Agreed. Also, keep in mind current Tiger 800 demos at dealers will be sold off once 2012 models begin to arrive. Must be a hundred or so demos about ... all will be for sale by October or November I'd think. Most dealers offer full 2 year warranty on demo bikes.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:44 PM   #6394
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The only glaring fault, which is a deal breaker for me, is the tingling through the bars. My throttle hand was asleep by the time I pulled back into the dealer parking lot. I had gone over there fully prepared to write a check for that bike. Today. Anybody else experience this problem?
I experienced the same thing on my demo ride. Check out my report a few pages back. Given that very few people are reporting this, either we are really sensitive to the frequency of the vibes this engine puts out (doubtful), or we both rode bikes with a common "issue". I'm leaning towards the latter, especially given how poorly my bike's bars were set up (turned wayyyyy down, so much so that standing resulted in an uncomfortable hunched over affair).

Personally I would NOT let this make or break my decision on this bike. There are a ton of solutions for this, from different bars (Twinwall, Fastway Flex, etc.) to bar end weights to vibe isolating risers (this would likely be my choice since I'd need risers on this bike anyway....2 birds, one stone ). If the rest of the bike fits your needs, I say go for it!

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Old 06-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #6395
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Windshield:

I'm 5'8" with a 30" inseam. I think the windshield is almost as good as I ever got the Strom to be and I went through about 5 different windshields on the Strom. I know this is a very subjective thing, but I think it's safe to say that the OEM screen on the T800 is way better than the OEM screen on the Strom. I don't feel the need to start buying stuff to make it better.

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I had to install Race Tech Cartridge Emulators in the forks of my Strom and a Wilbers shock on the back to get it to ride like I wanted it too. These transformed the Strom into a wonderful machine. I think the suspension on the T800 is just about 90% of what I was able to achieve on the Strom. If you think the front end is harsh, let it break in a bit before you start throwing money at it.
I agree about the screen because it took me far too many years and far too much money sorting the screen on my Girlie. Although with my Schuberth C3 I get terrible wind noise generated in the chin vent. So, I tried a Touratech wing that I had laying around and it transformed the bike. You can see it in this photo....

I'm now thinking that I may need the bigger screen.

Suspension on my XC is superb. A bit stiff at the moment but it works great when you start pushing the bike through bumpy corners at speed. The whole bike is so stable it inspires great confidence.
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:41 PM   #6396
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I experienced the same thing on my demo ride. Check out my report a few pages back. Given that very few people are reporting this, either we are really sensitive to the frequency of the vibes this engine puts out (doubtful), or we both rode bikes with a common "issue". I'm leaning towards the latter, especially given how poorly my bike's bars were set up (turned wayyyyy down, so much so that standing resulted in an uncomfortable hunched over affair).

Personally I would NOT let this make or break my decision on this bike. There are a ton of solutions for this, from different bars (Twinwall, Fastway Flex, etc.) to bar end weights to vibe isolating risers (this would likely be my choice since I'd need risers on this bike anyway....2 birds, one stone ). If the rest of the bike fits your needs, I say go for it!

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Found your post. Now I remember why I expected the motor to feel gutless. Surprisingly, it exceeded my expectations. Sounds like we both rode XCs that were similarly set up in regards to the bars. The local Triumph dealer is a chopper shop so the bike looked like a cruiser with buckhorns. Maybe I'll go back, but not until they get the front tire balanced and adjust those bars to a more upright position. It was too damn hot to wait around today and I've got a nasty sinus infection which excacerbated the heat. The bike temp display stayed between 94 and 100. I thought it was the odometer at first.
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:58 PM   #6397
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The bike temp display stayed between 94 and 100. I thought it was the odometer at first.

My tiger ain't got no temp display. Is that sometning new on the 2012's???
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:24 PM   #6398
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My tiger ain't got no temp display. Is that sometning new on the 2012's???
From what I understand there is not an ambiant temperature display on these bikes or is there? The dealer where we are getting the loaners from could not show us there was one nor could we find one like we have on the Beemers.

Does someone know something we don't know? if so, where is the temperature display?
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:41 PM   #6399
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From what I understand there is not an ambiant temperature display on these bikes or is there? The dealer where we are getting the loaners from could not show us there was one nor could we find one like we have on the Beemers.

Does someone know something we don't know? if so, where is the temperature display?
Something tells me all this ... and more ... would be covered in your owner's manual. Who knows what else you might learn about the bike!

If you're writing a review on the Tiger I'd suggest asking Triumph for a press kit. Then maybe do some follow up emails to Simon Warburton's office to address specific technical questions/issues you may have ... you know ... so as to avoid embarrassment in the review.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:57 PM   #6400
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From what I understand there is not an ambiant temperature display on these bikes or is there? The dealer where we are getting the loaners from could not show us there was one nor could we find one like we have on the Beemers.

Does someone know something we don't know? if so, where is the temperature display?
During the test ride, I was trying to get the trip meter as I was cycling through the numbers on the digital display at stop lights. After a few minutes, the display kept reverting back to numbers (which fluctuated between 94 -100) on the screen which I finally assumed was a temp display by the time I rolled into the dealer lot. I dunno. The dealer (its a chopper shop)didn't know shit. One thing's for sure. Those numbers were not mileage. Maybe it was the temperature inside my pants.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:59 PM   #6401
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There's an Orange 2012 XC w ABS not spoken for at I-90 Motorsports in Issaqua WA. At least there was two hours ago...
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:06 PM   #6402
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Something tells me all this ... and more ... would be covered in your owner's manual. Who knows what else you might learn about the bike!

If you're writing a review on the Tiger I'd suggest asking Triumph for a press kit. Then maybe do some follow up emails to Simon Warburton's office to address specific technical questions/issues you may have ... you know ... so as to avoid embarrassment in the review.
So thanks for the tips...

why not answer my question since you know all about your bike...a bike we do not even have yet and like I said I was told no ambient temp on this bike and I was told by the GM that they were thinking about adding it...so if someone in here has the ability to see the ambient temperature I would like to know because no one I have spoken to says it is a feature on this bike...why the smart ass post?

And when did I say I was writing a review on this bike..I said I would answer questions...this ride of ours is not about the Tiger it is about our own hard earned adventure to a place I have always wanted to go...we happen to be getting there on loaned Tigers.
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:34 PM   #6403
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Just bought a 2012 800XC, black on a black frame. Damn thing is sitting at the dealer in Lakewood, CO while I'm sitting here in Moab. The dealer sent me photos of the bike on the lot w/ all the farkles I had bolted on, plus a set of TKC 80's. I'm heading over to pick it up in early July and will spend about 5 days riding through the mountains back to Moab. It's killing me to wait that long but the work schedule just isn't cooperating.

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800XC w/ ABS
Heated grips
Center stand
Adjustable touring windscreen
Bash plate
Crash bars
Gel seat
Headlight protector
Fog lights
TKC 80's
Anodized brake & clutch levers
Hepco & Becker Xplorer panniers (ordered, but not in pic)

I've got the BMW GPS Navigator IV off my F650GS that will be installed as soon as I get the bike and I need to find a good tank bag. Any suggestions?
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:39 PM   #6404
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Ambient temp - it don't have it.
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:56 PM   #6405
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Ambient temp - it don't have it.
thank you for simply answering my question...and that was what I was told...
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