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Old 06-22-2011, 12:27 PM   #6721
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Not to, but through. Racks bolt through the 800 rear rack, just a cover really.
So you attached the Givi plate to something on the bike - i.e. you didn't have to buy anything extra ?
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:47 PM   #6722
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Adv Grifter, lots of good input in your post.


Nope i do not want a dakar or a rally bike, well who doesnt i want that too. What i want is a modern dependeble adventure/touringbike.

I my eyes i guess the XC is almost spot on, 1 or 2 more inches of ground clearence would just be iceing on the cake!

As i wrote i was just thinking of possible impovements(in my eyes).

The XC will, if i get one, properbly perform great!

I guess i want a KTM Adventure but not another KTM.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:23 PM   #6723
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Yes it has Excel rims. Suspension is by Showa. Brakes by Nissin. Engine by Rolls Royce jet division.


Really, engine by Rolls? Where did that info come from?[/QUOTE]

Because mine is so smooth and at 70~75mph I can still hear the whistle it's like riding a jet engine.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:24 PM   #6724
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Adv Grifter, lots of good input in your post.


Nope i do not want a dakar or a rally bike, well who doesnt i want that too. What i want is a modern dependeble adventure/touringbike.

I my eyes i guess the XC is almost spot on, 1 or 2 more inches of ground clearence would just be iceing on the cake!

As i wrote i was just thinking of possible impovements(in my eyes).

The XC will, if i get one, properbly perform great!

I guess i want a KTM Adventure but not another KTM.
I also wanted an Adventure. I have had my T800 XC for 2 weeks now and went by the KTM dealer yesterday. I am soooooo glad I went with the XC. I was also very un sure about the off road capabilities of the T800 XC. Untill I went off road with it on Saturday. Holy Sh** was I impressed. I was so impressed that I actually thought to myself "I think I might sell my dirt bike because I dont need it anymore!"

I am about to find out for sure but my suspension guy tell me that you should be able to get another 2 inches of travel out of the bike. He is not 100% but he will be as soon as I get my bike to him.

So far I have been averaging 500 miles a week and lovin every mile of it!!! (except for that back tire, if I want to get 2500 miles out of my rear TKC80 I may want to lay off the throttle a bit!!! )
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:26 PM   #6725
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'Blacktiger' - I understand the Girlie attachment. I have an 06' that I'm keeping for the long distance camping / fishing trips that are mostly (but never entirely) pavement. Still love that machine for its comfort & performance - plus its beautiful... in an ugly / humpy sort of way.
Yep, you got it right there.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:27 PM   #6726
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If it's anything like my 955i, it'll make the sound a jet engine makes whilst the aeroplane is taxiing out to the runway. Yep - Rolls Royce, for sure!

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Old 06-22-2011, 01:29 PM   #6727
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I also wanted an Adventure. I have had my T800 XC for 2 weeks now and went by the KTM dealer yesterday. I am soooooo glad I went with the XC. I was also very un sure about the off road capabilities of the T800 XC. Untill I went off road with it on Saturday. Holy Sh** was I impressed. I was so impressed that I actually thought to myself "I think I might sell my dirt bike because I dont need it anymore!"

I am about to find out for sure but my suspension guy tell me that you should be able to get another 2 inches of travel out of the bike. He is not 100% but he will be as soon as I get my bike to him.

So far I have been averaging 500 miles a week and lovin every mile of it!!! (except for that back tire, if I want to get 2500 miles out of my rear TKC80 I may want to lay off the throttle a bit!!! )
Have you gotten that little iddle/start up problem resolved?
It would be nice to know what you found out form that.
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:31 PM   #6728
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The fact is that NOW ... out in the world 17" rear tires have become more common and more available than 18" rear tires. Because of all the bikes out touring the world now that use a 17" rear .... this size is now the STANDARD. No longer the 18". Some 250's and 400's use 18 ... as well as most KTM . Honda XR650R and perhaps a few more odd balls. But the Majority of popular Adventure/travel bikes ... singles included ... use ... and have used 17" rear tire. Just not an issue any longer. If a remote place has tires it's very likely they will have two sizes : 17" and 21".

Which Bikes Use 17" rear tire?
BMW GS - ALL - R100, R1100, 1150, 1200, F800, F650 twins, G650/F650 Dakar (130/17 or 140/17 or 150/17)
KTM 990 - (180-17)
V-Strom - ALL - (150/17)
DR650/DR250 - (120/17 or 130/17)
KLR650/KLR250/KLX250S - (120 and 130/17)
Yamaha XT600/660, TT250/WR250R - (120/17 or 130/17)
Honda XR650L - (120/17)
Transalp - (130/17)
Aprilia Caponord - (150/17)
Tiger - ALL except 1050 - 150/17 (1993 to 2006/ 2011 2012 Tiger 800)
Not quite correct. 18" rear is still the standard size for enduro bikes and is used by most of the more dirt-oriented dual-sports, including the XR650L, KLX250s, and WR250R which you have incorrectly listed as having a 17" rear. Also KTMs (including the 950/990 Adventure and SER), Husqvarnas, Husabergs, etc.

And there's no denying that there's a far better selection of dirt-oriented DOT rubber available for 18" rims, much of it 140/80-18 (which would work great on a bike like the XC).

The biggest issue, though, is not rim diameter, but width. There are very few dirty tires that come in a 150 width, whether for 17" or 18" rims. With a narrower rim, the XC could run a 130 Dunlop D606 or something without a problem.

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Old 06-22-2011, 01:50 PM   #6729
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Have you gotten that little iddle/start up problem resolved?
It would be nice to know what you found out form that.
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No, I contacted the dealer and they want me to bring it by. I havn't had time yet. I tried to re create the problem on Monday evening with no luck... After looking back I probably should have shut the bike off to let the computer reset because that problem was over 300 miles ago now and the bike has been running perfect ever since...
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Old 06-22-2011, 01:59 PM   #6730
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I also wanted an Adventure. I have had my T800 XC for 2 weeks now and went by the KTM dealer yesterday. I am soooooo glad I went with the XC. I was also very un sure about the off road capabilities of the T800 XC. Untill I went off road with it on Saturday. Holy Sh** was I impressed. I was so impressed that I actually thought to myself "I think I might sell my dirt bike because I dont need it anymore!"

I am about to find out for sure but my suspension guy tell me that you should be able to get another 2 inches of travel out of the bike. He is not 100% but he will be as soon as I get my bike to him.

So far I have been averaging 500 miles a week and lovin every mile of it!!! (except for that back tire, if I want to get 2500 miles out of my rear TKC80 I may want to lay off the throttle a bit!!! )
That's great news! What dirt bike do you ride? Sounds like the XC is working well for you.

Have you ever done much serious dirt riding with a bike loaded with 100 lbs. of bags, racks, crash guards and gear strapped on?

Please give us an update on getting an extra 2 inches of travel. Dog bones?
Drop forks in Triples? Love to hear how this would be accomplished.
Good luck!
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:10 PM   #6731
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No, I contacted the dealer and they want me to bring it by. I havn't had time yet. I tried to re create the problem on Monday evening with no luck... After looking back I probably should have shut the bike off to let the computer reset because that problem was over 300 miles ago now and the bike has been running perfect ever since...
Oh well... it could had been a "momentary lapse of reason" moment by the fuel system or ECU. I guess this statement dates me.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:16 PM   #6732
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No, I contacted the dealer and they want me to bring it by. I havn't had time yet. I tried to re create the problem on Monday evening with no luck... After looking back I probably should have shut the bike off to let the computer reset because that problem was over 300 miles ago now and the bike has been running perfect ever since...
I wonder if some of the problems some people have are due to the throttle being inadvertently opened slightly when pressing the starter button. On some bikes, especially BMWs this can upset the throttle position sensor setting.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:19 PM   #6733
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Not quite correct. 18" rear is still the standard size for enduro bikes and is used by most of the more dirt-oriented dual-sports, including the XR650L, KLX250s, and WR250R which you have incorrectly listed as having a 17" rear. Also KTMs (including the 950/990 Adventure and SER), Husqvarnas, Husabergs, etc.

And there's no denying that there's a far better selection of dirt-oriented DOT rubber available for 18" rims, much of it 140/80-18 (which would work great on a bike like the XC).

The biggest issue, though, is not rim diameter, but width. There are very few dirty tires that come in a 150 width, whether for 17" or 18" rims. With a narrower rim, the XC could run a 130 Dunlop D606 or something without a problem.

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Sorry on the KLX and WR ... (cutting pasting from old post) I thought the XR-L had a 17 rear ... specs I found show it as a 17", but you own it ... so you would know. Are the new XR-L's the same as your bike?

As far as width ... the guys riding F800GS are fitting 140 size Heidenau rear tires on their bikes and feedback is good. Not so much on the front Heidenau however. I'm thinking a 140/17 could work OK on the Tiger as well. No idea how it would affect handling on road. Should be better off road.

But you are correct .... in the 3rd world finding knobbie tires will be more a challenge ... but because of BMW ... seems to be good supplies of TKC80 rear size 150's about.

Also appears more companies are tooling up to provide more aggressive tires in the larger sizes. Kenda for example. Shinko can't be far behind. Keep an eye on them, they are moving fast. Pirelli is big in S. America, we could see more from them too? (Big Pirelli factory in Brazil) I feel in very near future Tiger XC owners will not be the victim of Gourmet $180 dual sport tires. If the Tiger continues to take off I think more choices are a good bet.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:23 PM   #6734
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That's great news! What dirt bike do you ride? Sounds like the XC is working well for you.

Have you ever done much serious dirt riding with a bike loaded with 100 lbs. of bags, racks, crash guards and gear strapped on?

Please give us an update on getting an extra 2 inches of travel. Dog bones?
Drop forks in Triples? Love to hear how this would be accomplished.
Good luck!
Right now I ride a RMZ-250. Previously had an RMZ-450, RMZ-250, RM-125. I have ridden and raced tons of offroad. I had a '07 V-Strom 1000 as well so yes, offroad is no stranger to my life.

I will update on the suspension after I visit with my suspension guy.
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:38 PM   #6735
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i took my T800 XC out yesterday for some off road fun (pictures will be posted tomorrow)

I promised these and never delivered... any how, here they are!









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